Would you feel threatened?

Phaser on heavy stun would do the trick. Oh wait...

I did watch the video. That shooting was justified all right.

Kid looked like something out of "The Crazies".

 

My problem is they don't RELIABLY incapacitate. They just hurt, which isn't effective in a lot of situations.

In this situation: pistol-fired rubber bullets rarely do more than bruise and a bean bag gun couldn't be used at all.

 

After 'viewing' the video. I am under the impression that the kid was shot right before you hear the bat drop the first time. The second time may have been the cop disarming him after he was shot and had grabbed the bat again.

Even if you are are fatally shot, you still have a few seconds of moving around before the shock hits and your nervous system shuts down. Notice that means you are dead, but not yet incapacitated.

I have never envied cops, who are sworn go in and deal with other people's worst messes.

 

The shooting could have been avoided. Cop cars need a flamethrower that pops up from the hood and can rotate in the front 180 degree angle. He could have been throwing napalm at the kid as he was backing away. That way, he would have only received 3rd or 4th degree burns all over his body instead of dying. Now that would be a crime deterrent, knowing that you would only live to be maimed, crippled and wallowing in freakish misery as every women and child passing by would scream out "Dear god, what is that horrible thing?!".

 

The only problem with a flamethrower is that it is what military types refer to as an "area effect weapon". Did you see all those cars in the video ?? A flamethrower would have turned them into UEVs (Unintended Exploding Vehicles). Also anyone else in the area (to say nothing of the trees, houses, etc ....) would have "gone up in smoke". After viewing the video, I agree with the forum consensus: the kids death was a minor tragedy, but the officer was fully justified. The kid didn't give him any other choice.

 

you guys live in usa you should get used to shitty stuff like that.

ive seen so many news about usa cops shooting and murdering and then getting argued about "using unnecessary deadly force" but no bat shit happens. if i was a cop living in a country where my collegues shoot on unarmed people with shotguns and use tazers on women in interrogation until they die, and fbi agents hoarding out by numbers of hundreds on a suspect house of 4-5 and sniping out women with with children on their arms with no charges held against her, id also feel kinda trigger happy.

 

Ooooooo...

Must...not...reply...

Baiting...me...

I'm going to wait until Gaear and GA and some others respond. :yes:

I'm supposed to be the troll!

 

oh no offense to anybody. come to think of it my country have it even worse. i think the good police are against police violence also. but again, i personally think all cops all over should be hired after a really hardy reflex test.

 

After reading his smoking post, I have to conclude he is baiting YOU. Brace yourself for the anti-meat post on the cooking thread.

Kio, did you watch the video of the incident?

The issue isn't whether he "deserved" to die as punishment for his "crimes", but what the officer must do in order to preserve himself and others while performing his sworn duties. Many, though not all, arrests require force, escalated as required by the suspect's actions. It ALWAYS looks like unnecessary brutality when shown out of context on video.

Also, it might be wise not to fall for the arrestee's story until you know more. Multiple-conviction felons are not always the best source for the truth. On the rare occasions that their stories are true, Hollywood will make it a movie.

Try to track down a few episodes of the American TV show "Cops". Very educational.

 

how many different convictions or more-to-knows can there be about 8 officers locked up in a basement of the station and a dead female body comes out, covered in tazer marks? or a women with a bullet in her head, holding a child as a weapon with no convictions in her name? im not making these stories up. you guys should watch less tv. those programs are made so that you think cops are not so bad. well theyre not actually but i still think there should be better safety measures taken against them or another a seperate organisation that inspects them.

 

The news media, and the citizens. That show probably DOES fail to show videos of the police screwing up.

I don't care who forms what opinions, just as long as EVERYONE can see what happened. What we don't see is still happening. 99% of the police actions I've seen were handled with restraint and professionalism. The other 1% SHOULD make the news.

The repulsive fact is that force or violence usually requires GREATER or violence to stop it. The time to worry is when the force is no longer repugnant to most people.