The next time someone has spell visual effects permanency, can you try this fix from Sol? He said in an old post that the 0 duration variable would kill the effect. Replace 'silence' with whatever spell your suffering with. Code: target_item.obj.condition_add_with_args( 'sp-Silence', spell.id, spell.duration, 0, spell_obj_partsys_id ) If it works, we can add it to CI&S for the benefit of those who suffer from non-fatal spell permanency.