Temporary Jayfie bugfix.

Sorry guys, but I'm going to have to put a stop to this ad-hoc bug-fixing. I appreciate the effort (and I have no objection to the Jayfie fix since everyone seems to really get hung up on it and reverting to vanilla is no big deal in that case), but the modpack isn't operating that way this time around. We need to preserve its integrity, and having random 'fix' files doing the rounds just compromises it.

Ariel will be fixed. You can live without her scrolls for the time being.

 

George, I'm going to give you a day to reconsider that statement. You're free to dislike me all you want, but you're not free to insult me or show disrespect toward me as a moderator:

You should be familiar with these rules better than anyone, being a long-time member. You'll note that I didn't insult you in my previous post.

Your allegations are foolish and untrue. If you're going to mod, do it in the GM forum. And do it as a team member, not unilaterally.

 

I don't really believe that, but I'm willing to let you off the hook for at least saying so anyway.

You posts are not ad-hoc; the bugfixes you post are. Ad-hoc, as in not part of the group effort and not coordinated into a single tested whole. Which itself represents the concept of the integrity of the modpack.

No, you posted a file which he and others could download, the impact of which you were uncertain of.

That's fine, but you should then post a fixpack of your own entitled "wizgeorge's 5.5.0 beta bugfixes" or something, be sure to maintain a buglist for it, and offer support yourself. Anything else, particularly as applies to additions to the Co8 modpack, is irresponsible. If you're counting on me or other modders here to bail you out if something's not right, then I get to have a say as to whether you can post it or not, and how you should post it.

That's the way it's always been, and people have always waited patiently before.

There's no guarantee that everything will be fixed, but there is a guarantee that this bug will be fixed - already has been fixed internally, in fact. It says so in the 5.5.0 bug thread in GM.

I think you answered that one yourself.

Here's the bottom line: if you want to work on bugfixes for the modpack, submit them in a separate thread in the GM forum. There's no CMF thread for the beta like in the old days, but I'll still consider your submission the way we used to. If it's found to be error-free and necessary and meets quality standards, I'll include it in the next modpack. I can tell you in advance, however, that neither this fix nor the Jayfie fix will be applicable for the next release. Which leads me to the larger point: we're really not trying to bugfix for the 5.5 release; we're trying to bugfix and expand for the next release.

If you want to provide bugfixes for 5.5 anyway, do the same thing: post them in a separate thread in GM; maintain a thread where you chair discussion and answer questions if problems arise; provide support in the form of fixes to your own fixes if necessary. That is all.

 

Um, MB? This situation was doing just fine without you involving yourself. I stated what needed to happen, wizgeorge complied. Everything was fine. If you want to thank George for the Jayfie fix, that's fine too. But please don't presume to lecture me on my conduct or pass unsolicited and uninformed judgements on your views of 'civil discourse,' and most importantly, don't speak to modding situations about which you are not well-informed. If you read closely and understood my case against posting these fixes here, you'd know that this was not just a matter of "fix[ing] known bugs even if they are just stop gap fixes until the next mod comes out."

This thread is closed, since I believe George is using another thread now anyway. And the Jayfie file is still available for download here. And MB, if I hear one more word anywhere else about a dead issue such as this one from you, you'll be going on vacation. Heed me.