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  1. Cujo

    Cujo Mad Hatter Veteran

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    Well I don't know how it got F'd up. but in my testing when I made a mistake all the bonuses went onto appraise (I think when it had skill circumstance bonus but didn't recognise the skill) and a couple of things are round the wrong way.
     
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  2. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Cujo, lemme know what has to be done and I will fix it.

    Cerulean, that means a stuff up in the dlg file. Usually a stuff up like that kills everything after it, and since the 'sell you the runes' line is the last line in the file, I tested through to that, it worked, and i thought it was free of such catastrophic stuff-ups. I still can't see it, but I will track it down.

    [Edit: think i got it - in the 2nd-last line there is the parameter

    {pc.money_adj(-1500); }

    Since no one else has reported this, I am going to assume Cerulean talked to Yvy once, then went back to see if there was anything more to it (there isn't, though she will make a comment on the Jayfie issue if you are doing that quest). If anyone wants to fix this right away, just delete that semi-colon. I will upload a fix after I have changed o/ses and tested this.]
     
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  3. Croix

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    I experienced the same issue with the Celtic tatoos. I don't mind it being +5 on appraise. Perfect deal for my wizard that only wears farmer's garbs. What was it supposed to be?
     
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  4. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

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    Since no one else has reported this, it may just be my install. This happened the first time I talked to her, and every time after that. Her dialogue text appears above her sprite in the game, but all that appears in the dialogue box is a grey version of what my character has just said. I have tried deleting the semi-colon, and have even started a new game, all with the same results. I wouldn't call it catastrophic, as I can still read her dialogue as floating text, and she still sells the tattoos. It's just odd.
     
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  5. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    We'll we're having a few too many of these 'install' issues, but i don't know what to do about it. All I can do is zip the files up and upload them, I have a reasonable P4 and a cable modem and Co8's servers seem fine, maybe I should post a checksum with the next lot.

    I haven't been able to replicate that problem Cerulean, tried many variations. Would you mind reinstalling that one file? Just drag and drop it from the zip into data/dlg (if you are doing it right you should get a 'replace file' option). Don't forget to delete that colon again, just to be thorough ;)

    If you have deleted the patch after installing it, don't worry about d/ling it again, just grap this one.

    [Edit: forgot to say what the file was! 00281Yvy.dlg]

    [2nd edit: I am using the tattoo to boost my appraise ability, I like it!]
     

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  6. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

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    Thanks for trying Ted. I don't know what you can do about it either. Unless someone else has the same problem, it must be something screwy with my install. I really should do a clean install. I tried the file you uploaded. Still get the same thing. I can't find anything in the dialogue file or the script that would be causing this, though I'm still trying to wrap my head around both of those file types, so I could be missing something. I didn't get any response from Meleny or Fruella at the brothel either, even when I let Serena or Riana join the party. I really really should do a clean install. Maybe tomorrow. Now for bed. Night all.
     
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  7. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    To get the brothel reply, you have to have BOTH. Someone (Liv or Co8 or someone) has added a bit where if you get both in the party, they make some flirtatious comment about how they like to do everything together or smoe such thing (no idea what it means, I am too pure). But thats the trigger for Meleny to say her peice. I couldn't do an individual trigger because it was already there in each of them for the other sister to say something.
     
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  8. Cujo

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    Hey Ted, I don't have much time to spend on the computer these days, but one way I checked/fixed things with skill circumstance bonus I would have a look at things like the sorcerers helm and other things that are already there in the original game and see if they're messed up as well.

    right thinking really slowly because I stayed up all night in town (and we lost the rugby :( ) and then walked 8km(bout 5miles) home at 5am and got up early so I'm really sleepy.

    ok what the problem is and I don't know why its changed but, there is no skill_ infront of the skills and change skill_tumble to skill_use_magic_device because those two are round the wrong way (look at vest of escapement in protos to check) and if you all want to have the celtic add to apraise then Ted add it in as well. I think that this version of the protos is one thats been edited before I released my fix for it thanks to Old Book for his help in that.
     
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  9. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Ok I tihnk I can handle that... and if u think what the Springboks did is bad, look whats happening in the Ashes! (At least Parramatta won, but you may not be happy about that either ;))

    Now... what exactly are the Runes meant to do? Anyone? (And no the appraise thing is silly, can just cast Eagle's Thingy or whatever is applicable if I am worried about that).
     
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  10. Cujo

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    If you mean what are they ment to do in my interpretation then they're runes of protection engraved in the skin. As to actual D&D rules... well you know that I don't know what they are.
     
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  11. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    No you clown, what did u make them to do? +5 intimidate? +5 sense kittens? +2 ac? what should i make them do?
     
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  12. Cujo

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    Oh they've got all the other bits in the protos allready, so its just what I've mentioned is all you'll have to change to get it back to how it was. If there are any other problems just complain to the manager, I mean just post

    Laters, time for bed...
    All times are GMT +12. The time now is 10:04 PM.
     
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  13. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Okey dokey, will get right onto it first thing tomorrow :)
     
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  14. Old Book

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    I got this response. It was cute. I also really liked having an NPC actually react to what was going on around her.

    As to the Celtic, if sticking to "pure" D20 is important, the SysRefDoc only lists Psionic Tatoos, which work almost exactly like scrolls. However, the Silver Moon Tattoo Parlour and other D20 products do detail more magical tattoos that act exactly like standard magic items. So, you could have a Celtic that functione in exactly the same way (and was priced in exactly the same way) as magical bracers or a circlet. I'd suggest making the Celtic the same as Bracers of AC:3 plus a Circlet of Persuasion in terms of price and effects, but that might make it too expensive for low level characters. A series of Celtics (from AC 1, +1 to social skills, all the way up to AC:5, +3 to social Skills) would also be rules legal, so long as it was priced accordingly.

    As per Sys ref doc (fudging slighty as this is using Bracers as a base):
    AC Price 1,000 gp (+1), 4,000 gp (+2), 9,000 gp (+3), 16,000 gp (+4), 25,000 gp (+5)

    For the skill boosts (based on Circlet prices, but fudged slightly), just move the item one step up on the price chart. So, a combination of +3 to AC and +3 to CHA checks and CHA based skills should come out to 16000 GP.

    If all this is too much of a hassle, I'd just price them as Bracers and go.
     
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  15. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Ok, i think i have a working theory on this... once again, will have to wait til the morning.

    We lost the cricket by two. By TWO. I am so sick of always losing the close ones, Jeff Thompson must be rolling in his grave.

    [Edit: does any of you crafty types know how to make them so they would not negate the bracers ac, or visa versa? If they don't 'stack' with the bracers, I don't see the point: if they do, they would be quite useful, and we could have naked wizards in all directions. :blink: ]
     
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