Salamanders and Giants and Gnolls (Oh My!)

Woo! Going to give this thing a whirl tonight. Thanks for all your hard work on this, CB. I didn't realize when I set out to do this that I'd end up making so much work for others.

 

I'm not quite sure if my protos is completely up to date with the latest from Darmagon, but I think it is.

The work on this was more tedious and mind numbing than hard, but Agetian's additions to WB helped a lot, and the project also helped improve WB, so the benefits are two-fold.

 

I don't see how the warp wood stuff in utilities.py could be missing in my files, since utilities.py is not in those files to begin with. I didn't touch utilities.py in the MOB fixes. Are you sure you have the right one?

As for the other stuff, I knew it wasn't up to date with all your changes. I haven't downloaded the latest Verbo-mod. Thanks for throwing it in. I will add it to the package soon.

[EDIT] Allyx's files have now been incorporated into the MOB Fixes download above (post 338), except for the utilities.py file, which is part of Darmagon's New Spells.

Also, I've fixed the Familiar Death script so that it now properly removes xp rather than CON upon the familiar's death. This has also been incorporated into the above MOB Fixes download, or, if you don't want to re-download you can find just those changes in the file below. YOU WANT THESE FILES AS THE ORIGINALS DID NOT WORK CORRECTLY.

 

Another update to the Summonable Familiars stuff. With these files the familiar doesn't disappear after a set time (well it will, but the set time is something like 680 years). Instead, when you want the familiar to go back into your pack, you talk to it and tell it to do so.

Oh, and you always summon them from the inventory radial menu now.

When you put the familiar back in your pack it will not heal, but it will remove all spell effects/poison/disease from it. When you call forth the familiar once again, it will still have any damage it had when you put it away, but it will gain hp for any increase in it's masters level while it was in the pack.

[EDIT] D'oh! I forgot the proto.tab file. It's the base one so far for 4.1.0 and incorporates Kalshane's fixes. If you downloaded this before 12:33 am GMT on 4/4/2006 you should redownload this.

 

Can the HP simply be "set" to whatever you wish? They're supposed to be under the bugbears in the pecking order around the 'house, and are jealous rivals as a result (k-9 pride & all that). I'd hate to see just how tough the bugbears are given this information.

 

Sorry for the slow response. This this first time all week I've been able to read through the forum without it either constantly crashing IE or the site going down.

I didn't change the levels for any of the gnolls. All I did was make sure they were statted correctly. Quite a few of them have a level in Barbarian. Those that did were assigned the elite array (15,14,13,12,10,8) for their stats, as per the rules. (Part of the CR increase for having character levels comes from having better than default stats.) Which means those Barbarian gnolls have a Con of 16 (14, +2 for being a gnoll), which goes up to 20 when they rage. So when raging they should have 12 (for 1st level of Barbarian, which is maxed) +2d8 (gnoll hit dice) + 15 (from Con) hitpoints, for a range of 29 to 43 hp.

The regular old gnolls are going to range from 4 and 18 HP with their lower Con, lack of rage and lack of Barbarian level.

Of course, this is all from memory. I'd have to check the protos to be sure that this is the case.

 

How many of them are like this? It'd be ok for maybe a couple or three, but not more. The character class upgrade should be reserved for exceptional individuals. Not to say that this isn't or anything, but it seems to complicate an unsophisticated group unnecessarily.

FWIW, this is one reason why I hate edition 3.5. Gnolls having barbarian skills is like gnome paladins. Blech.

 

I don't know how many off-hand. There's only two entries in the protos for Gnolls with class levels (in addition to the Gnoll leader) out of 9 listed. I don't know which ones are spawned in that encounter. I seem to recall there are only 2 or 3 raging gnolls out of the dozen or so you fight.

I'm the opposite of you when it comes to 3.5. I think it's incredibly logical that intelligent, sentient, tool-using creatures would be able to increase their skill in the same way that humans and the like can.

 

That makes you the Anti-Spike...

Of course, it makes perfect sense, it just doesn't suit my tastes. Call it something else, make it slighty different (in a way that is specifically suited to each race) and I'da probably been less likely to complain in the first place.

Probably.

:shrug: