No, I get it. But it's ~ Sometimes your subtlety is ... a little too subtle. What? :scratchhe If you mean XGF, she wasn't really what I'd call a wounded bird.
I would like very much to know why you think it's disappointing. I would like very much to know why you think it's disappointing. Not to attack...just to know. I know. :raving: I did put up a spoiler. Shot in the dark. What would you call her?
I haven't been following this thread too closely but it seems to be gravitating toward the eternal question, why do nice guys finish last but assholes never lack for girlfriends? If I may throw in my $0.02, my experience ultimately was similar to what Emirkol said - very slow, starting at friendship and gradually becoming more as we realised how right we were for each other. Names, Scryler? I would be very interested in seeing those: I find the media to be (at times) appalingly anti-male, but doubtless women feel the same about their (the media's) manifold failings.
Just got back in from patrol , NO DOMESTICS! :joy: Sent son on two man team with Joe, didn't worry about them once. I must be growing up. The kid handles me better than I handle him. When he was born, I worried that I was not going to do right by him. Apparently I didn't mess him up too badly. Unreserved love makes up for a lot of mistakes, I guess. :hug:
Heh, I think I may have pulled your own trick on you and been too cute with the quotes. I used your own "disappointing" quote so as to agree, in your own words, that the phenomenon was disappointing, not that your list was disappointing. Or did you want to know why I thought the phenomenon was disappointing? Consult yourself for that, because I think we agree. Hm, not really sure. Guess I'll have to think about that. Here in the US, it seems pretty standard that guys now play the official role of doofus in television commercials, while women are portrayed as being in control. For commercials in domestic type settings, anyway. It's bounced around to that a few times, but there's been much more. Really quite interesting. Kudos to all involved. :thumbsup: Time to go back to sleep .... it's Saturday morning. :asleep:
Whew, so many things discussed... I'm not going to quote, since it's pointless. -Brazilian?? Nope, GA82 is right, i'm Argen. I didn't know that brazilians where considered "pretty". we Argens, have no need for prettiness, we have the biggest Spoiler egos of the world. :eyebrow: -The protective matter...well, there's two types, imho. One is social, the other personal. The social is the "thaught" way, the one that Scryl mentions. Never to hit a woman, move the chair so she can sit, chop the wood instead of her, the usual crap. The thaugth "protectiveness", is usually applied to women, children and old people, basically anyone weaker. It doesn't have much sense, except to inflate the males ego Then there's the personal. Is as gaear said, a "as it is" thing, something that comes naturally -in most cases-, and applies to everyone (and everything). I assume is some kind of primitive instict, defending the territory. It is hard to explain... is like trying to explain a male's orgasm to a female or the inverse. And just like that, i prefer examples than words, so judge by yourself :biggergri : Example 1: I need help with my PC. My (X)GF shows up, and she's an expert. She decides to open the damned thing and take a look. By the time i've opened my mouth to say "lemme handle that", she quickly take off all the plugs, lift the pc, and take it to a better place to work with. Crack it open, touchs and unplugs everything, fiddles a bit more, close, lift again, plugs everything. The only movement i did was to lean forward and kiss her loudly when the stupid machine worked perfectly. The thaught "protectiveness" should have kicked in, and i should have done the heavy work. But i had confidence in her, and i would probably been more an obstruction than help. Besides, when you know the other, you know when to let testosterone kick in. Example 2: We where hanging out one night (5 girls, 3 boys), roaming around. Most of the group walk forward, laughing and chatting. Two of the girls where some meters behind speaking low, and i was last, cos i'm the kind of guy that always walks "alone" in a group. Suddendly, two guys appear, and block the two girls and start to mess with them. Both girls lower their head and walk away, passing the guys, and when they try to follow them i was already there, blocking the guys. I din't think on anything particular, and they didn't really need protection, since the rest of the group was ahead, but it was instinct. -About consideration...i usually say "take the remote, look what you want" even when i know she will say "keep it"...is a kind of "if know that you know that i know". That's what i meant when you know the other. She also would know when i really want to watch something, and i don't offer the remote so she wouldn't offend. That's a lot of knowledge "there is no knowledge, that is no power" -About the beaten girl: yeah, is kind of difficult to understand. I guess that also applies the "protected" issue. The aggressive the guy, the woman may feel that is a good protection...when actually is quite the contrary (most of the time, the agressors are quite cowardly) -Bad good boys are the worst. wheez...i'm lost!
I'm not quoting (much), either. Do you mean 'no knowledge, that is not power?' Thanks for the response. You sound like an authentic nice guy (unlike Gaear and GA82, who...by self declaration...are one variety or another of bad nice guys). I don't know why you would introduce yourself to someone as a 'loser.' I forgot about territory. I need to think about that...but am not going to be able to do that right now.
Ouch, Scryler throws a mean combination! :xeyes: I'd better fall in line and start puckering up ... :kiss: I bet HK's open admission of the 'loser' quality only helps him to cultivate new connections, as it were. :yes:
I'd call it auto-irony. I do that all the time, though not in such an outright way. Perhaps, that's what puts off most women from me. That, and lack of self-confidence, especially towards those women I seem to care for. I remember my 'first big love'... I never told her I felt something for her even though it was quite evident... we liked each other but after some time I got a big kick in the ass after I saw her with another guy... who is her present partner. With my attitude to women I'm surprised I found one who was able to bear with me for almost 4 years... Sorry.... derailed this a little.
Nope, this is just the type of stuff we're looking for. :thumbsup: Re: self confidence, I think that's a lot easier than most people who claim not to have it may think. Do two things: 1. don't give a damn about anything (consequences, the way you're perceived, etc.), and 2. be yourself. Then, more than likely, you'll be seen as 'self-confident.' I think where many people fail is the being yourself part. It's not that hard to spot an act after a while, and it's tough to keep up some charade. So maybe you're not Casanova. Who cares? You're maggit - guitar player, songwriter, KotB beta tester, etc. To hell with anyone if they're not suitably impressed with that.
In the Service of Her Majesty the Queen lol ... now she's kicking my ass all over the boards. What did I do to deserve this? :smarty: I will not submit, though. I've been around long enough to know that once you kiss ass in submission, you're through. Kissing ass once in a while on equal terms, however ... that can be fun. :eyebrow: