Oversight Committee Vote

Well, what exactly are we deciding on? The only new thing that has come along since all this began is Axe Thrower's pirate ship - otherwise, are we deciding if everything currently in the CMF is worthy to b 'official Co8' stuff?

Perhaps someone would like to make a quick list of what there is to think about (the Rannos and Gremag stuff, the signpost mod, the Sammy stuff, the Furnok stuff etc)? Then heck, lets have a vote on each: yes or no, no discussion entered into except for bugs.

Eg: Sitra's signpost mod must be considered.

Ted votes YES to inclusion.

 

Okay, to answer a few questions . . .

Sorry if that came off as rant-like, but all I expected was for the members of the committee to show up. I appreciate your use of the word "us" Ted, but you're not among the missing. It's more what I expected from the other no-shows, which was really no more than the most basic of commitments. Remember, this was never even my initiative to begin with. I just spearheaded it because no one else would, and well, now here we are.

This certainly sounds reasonable, and I never really wanted to do something immediately here. We can bide our time and then act if it becomes appropriate, like Spike says. What we should do in that eventuality is something we should start pondering though. That will be our responsibility if nothing changes here.

Thanks for the offer S_D, but let's let that lie for now. Cujo, do you see any particular need for this to happen right away?

How can we though? For one thing we never even really began. It was supposed to be an 8 member committee with Blue as chairman. And still it's too early to conclude that these guys are never coming back. In the meantime, that leaves the rest of us in the lurch, which is what I was really complaining about in the first place.

To my understanding it was supposed to be the entirety of the post-5.0.0 CMF. Again let me stress that I'm not bemoaning that we haven't started on that job in particular, but that we haven't done anything because half of the committee hasn't shown up since it was elected two weeks ago.

Again, it seems unneccesary to jump right on this atm, not to mention innapropriate if Blue and the others were to suddenly return from sunny Acapulco in a few days. But we do have to begin considering the possibility.

To be clear here, I don't particularly find fault with Allyx if he's got internet problems, and I expect that probably before long Old Book and Kalshane will come back around, though as stalwarts within the community they should assume more responsibility for it and make a greater effort to at least check in periodically. It's Blue who's the real mystery here, as his absence is unprecedented. Assuming that it was actually him checking his PMs a few days ago, we can safely say that he's not lying in a ditch by the side of the road somewhere, but not much more than that. If he's not lying in that ditch, then why is he leaving us hanging? No one is so busy that they can't spare five minutes for a quick post here, especially if you see that you've got your own 'WTF happened to' thread. I know because a lot of the time I'm pretty friggin' busy, and yet I always manage to check in at least every few days. And pretty much everyone's got access to a PC through their local library, if that's the problem. And Blue has previously posted notices on departures as short as four days or so, let alone two weeks. So what's the explanation? As of right now we have none.

 

Currently ToEE wont run through the frontend on my computer, I had to format my c: and I'm still getting a few problems arising from that little bit of fun, namely the fact that MS.NET got formatted too :anger:

I'll get back online when I can, but I can't upload files from the public library computers, unfortunately.

I still think the first order of business is that this oversight commitee needs to come to a decision on, is the fate of the ToEE reballancement. and that IMHO is more important than making a new patch, or updating the CMF at this point in time. the crucial point is that WE broke the game ballance, and WE ned to fix it, so can we get a vote on HOW it's going to be done?

 

Acknowledging the current priority status of KotB, I'll nonetheless put a few thoughts up for consideration ...

This is truly a conundrum. I'm leaning more nowadays toward an easy fix rather than an effective one, but no single approach really satisfies every aspect of this thing. If we throw in with Zebedee's argument that the game never was balanced in the first place and by its nature can't be balanced, then we need do nothing. This would be easy, but is it really the case? The next easiest thing to do would be to remove the Big 3 expansions and offer them as optional add-ons. All we'd have to do then is eliminate the hooks that get you there and leave it at that. Balance restored to whatever it was before. But then Krunch, Ted, and Axl get the shaft. Not cool. Then there's the option of major modifications, in whatever form they may take. Are we up to such a task with our current skeleton crew? I kind of doubt it, and especially not while KotB dev is supposed to be going full speed.

Probably best just to . . . keep . . . on . . . waiting. See if the vacationers come back. Not to mention, does the current Gang of 5 here have the authority to decide on anything?

 

Well, as far as KotB goes, all I ask of Allyx is that he do the Worldmap stuff he offered to do (because I don't think too many other people can do it) - his PC and net connection willing, of course, and when he has the time. Once thats done, if he wants to make balancing Verbo-mod his next priority, thats kewl - I just ask people put the immediate needs of KotB first, if there is something they can specifically offer. Ditto Krunch, all I need from him as a priority is the Orc Caves, beyond that I don't mind in the slightest if he puts redoing HB first before the rest of the Caves. The same goes for the other folks.

I can always change the trigger for the Moathouse respawn to after... well, after whatever we decide should be the point the new stuff kicks in. Thats all of 5 minutes work. And if people honestly think the Sword of Spite and other magic items in the DH quest are overpowered for the point they appear, well, much as it breaks my heart, I can change that pretty quickly too