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I know the other ways but I was too cheap to do so.. so I clubed him

He also would get re-equiped when he went back to the tower...even after I stripped him is that also normal?






The other comment.. about the corproal thing...
I am not sure it cant be fixed or not....

But I used a a male dwarf char went to the tower look for him... the "flerting" with the guards dialog still pops.... It was a bit funny..........

 

--> I talked to the spiderqueen with just one egg in my party... after I choose the option of hand ove rthe egg but hide one for myself... Not only I can keep the egg I have in my pocket... the spider queen would get one on her as well

-->After you done certain things for the undertaker.... you would engage a conversatation where you MIGHT notice he has some poision and you can ask one from him... It seems lik eyou can make the dialog loop and get unlimited bottles of poision..

 

More Billy Notes

Hi Folks
I am in the middle of my upteenth gothrough. This time I'm going to try to do it without using any NPCs. During my playthrough, I noticed a few things about Billy (the archer on the South Wall ). My party returned to the Keep after "business hours" ( by the way Ted, I hear the Cobbler hammering away at least 60% of the times that I go through or near the marketplace after dark ), with enough experience points for 3rd level. I had the party rent the furnished room in the Inn, and then leveled up the party and saved the game ( gametime was 22:39 ). I then rested the party for 8 hours ( per Ted's crashfree suggestion ) and went outside. The guards were under fire from Billy, but Billy was not on the wall. I went back into the Inn, came back outside, and he was on the wall. As a rule, for some reason I am less likely to have the "no Billy" problem if I try to run his "quest" during the night. This time was one of the few exceptions
I reloaded the save and left the Inn while it was still dark. The guards were under attack, but Billy was not on the wall. I went back into the Inn, came back out, and he was on the wall.

Morals of this story:
1.) Do your leveling up in the Inn, and save when you are done.
2.) If when you leave the Inn ( after leveling up to 3rd Level ) the guards are under attack, but you don't see Billy, duck back into the Inn. He should be on the wall when you come back out.

TRC

 

For Ted: Further Notes on Billy ( the Kid )

Hi Ted
I did some further testing on "The Grassy Gnoll", and I think that the problem with Billy appearing or not appearing might have something to do with the map cache. Allow me to explain. I have three files from parties that I leveled up to 3rd level in the Inn ( during game nighttime ). I have loaded and reloaded both of these files a combined total of 60 times, trying different options ( resting 8 hours in the furnished room, resting 8 hours in the common room, not resting at all, making sure that everyone was armed before leaving the Inn, changing who was the first person out the door ) and with one exception ( a CTD after resting 8 hours in the Common Room ) the results were always the same !! My party would leave the Inn, and see the guards under attack, but no Billy ! The party would then go back into the Inn, come back out, and Billy would be on the wall where he should be.
Now here is why I think the mapcache might have something to do with the Billy problem. When I orginally played two of the three files ( on March 26th and March 27th respectively ), I started the game session as I always do, by having the KoTBFE clear the map cache, and then loaded a file where the party members were 2nd level. I then played KoTB until the party leveled up to 3rd level, saved the game and played further until I was ready to call it quits for the night. In both cases, the first time out the door as a 3rd level party, my group had Billy on the wall. No problems at all. My normal practice when I start a game session is to clear the mapcache when starting the game. If you would like me to send you the respective files, let me know.
TRC

 

RE: Billy ( the Kid )

Hi Ted
I just remembered one other item. I don't know if it is significant or not, but in all the cases I mentioned ( all three saves, whether or not Billy was on the wall the first time my party exited the Inn ), the dog by the wall was Mangy.
TRC

 

OOOkay, just a few things:

-The hammering noise, it's probably from the Blacksmith, not the market place.

-There's no need to renter the Inn if the guards are under attack but there's no Billy. Simply enter the Bailiff's tower, talk to him, and go upstairs. Entering the Inn or the tower it's the same, the map change would fire up Billy. Still, if when you go up it's not there, then yes, you need to reenter the tower and out agin to have him appear.

-The mangy dog, it will be always a mangy dog, unless you "talk" to him, at that point you'll see that it change to savage.
If you have an animal companion in your party, and have the "select all" enabled (by this, i mean all the party selected), if you hover the animal companion, you'll see that it has no name, it says "wolf" or wathever the kind of animal it is. If you talk or select him, then their name appears (the same goes for NPC, like Meleny, which reads "farmer's daughter" or something like that). So, the mangy dog doesn't have nothing to do whit billy's problems.


What i did see, are some strange happenings in the Green Gryphon.
Besides the naked guy and changing clothes Fanny, i've seen two others weird things:

-The two weapons mercenary, sharpen his blades as any other charcter with two weapons...but the knife it's invisible.
-The old guy with the green shield sharpen his blade against...the shield of course.

This and some other "visual problems" makes me believe that the protos (or most probably the skms) should be revised.

 

HI HalfKnight

As I mentioned in a different thread, I found it somewhat amusing that the drunks were complaining about headaches. I always thought you didn't get the headache until you were "hungover" ( in other words: no longer totally drunk ).

TRC

 

Aahh, exactly my point. You should have run upstairs directly, after speaking with the Bailiff.

Indeed, if you go out at ground level, Billy seem to vanish definitely.
Well, that's what it happens to me; simply by talking/running upstairs directly, and if Billy is not there in/out the tower, it works.
Basically:

-guards under attack, but no Billy
-go to talk to the Bailiff, accept quest.
-runs upstairs
-go out (on top of the wall)
-if Billy doesn't show up, enter the tower to the room that leads there, and out again (not out of the tower, out in the wall)

In any case, it's the same than what you do but in a different place

Did Maeri didn't charge you to kill a "savage dog"? That's when his name changes...but Ted knows about that.
If you want to test that, go to a save pre-Billy, kill the dog and pass time t'ill he should show up, and see if it changes something

 

Ted I've got a question about my Druid's Companion,
whenever I fight he gets the floatline "Your companion
is not able to fight such unnatural enemies". Should this
happen to Druid Companions? The floatline appears even
for summoned animals (they do fight however). Oh, and is
it possible to have a pet for some other character? My
Barbarian has got quite a high score in Handle Animal... so...?

EDIT: I'm an idiot it's all in the player's guide.
This should totally be added to the In-game help... if only I knew
how to do this... hmm...

Also: Nobby said he'll polish a rusty sword I had, the dialogue
said he took it but he didn't actually. It stayed in the same place
it was. I was talking to him with my party leader but the second
character had the sword in its inventory.

 

It was a rusty short sword... I think I used the option to look
in the stuff I'm carrying. Damn... I'm not sure I'll have to test
it again.


PS. I liked that little detail when the bartender tells you to move
on the right side of the bar. That's a nice pun if you look at classic
RPGs.