Official KotB Demo Bug List

Because i'm an idiot?

Despite keeping a close check on flags used in the game, there are clearly a couple of duplicates doing the rounds. One is the 'met spider-silk merchant' flag - people are telling Flay they met the spider merchant when they clearly haven't - and this appears to be another one. I'll get right on it.

No.

Meet him in the pub at night. Otherwise, I'll look at that. You wouldn't think Billy was one of the first quests done, and was tested over and over again, would you? Damn Elves.

As a last resort.

My brain melted trying to calculate where you went wrong but I would suggest you should have an extra '-10' in there somewhere. Think of it this way - no-one else has had a problem with that riddle. Also, when he asks you to pick someone smart to answer, do it - characters of less-than-impressive intelligence won't get the correct option. But in any case its more than 6.25.

 

Well there is a seperate composite longbow str 14 in the protos.tab, so I guess that one is a mistake. And its been fixed

 

Ooo, an entire day without a bug report. Sweet

The patch is coming along nicely, I just stopped by to say I have confirmed the "inn" bug: I had a nice CTD free game running around chatting to people and doing quests before I finally had to rest, and had CTDs right after - completely nuked saves really. I tried resting upstairs instead (after an earlier save), game all better. Kept playing, had to rest again after a while, slept downstairs and a couple of maps later (well, a few really - bailey-pub-guild-bailey-cells, with the CTD on arrival at the cells) had the CTD. So I went back and reloaded, skipped sleeping, and sure enough did the cells map and subsequent stuff with no CTD. So sleeping downstairs certainly seems to be corrupting the game somehow. I'm hoping sleeping upstairs might be ok, but we'll see.

Other than remaking the map I am not sure how to fix downstairs, but its only a little map

 

There have been some issues mentioned with that quest - I'll look into it.

@ Cern: If sleeping in the Inn is causing problems to pop up later, it's going to effect everyone's game I guess. I'll see if I can confirm whether sleeping upstairs is any better. Otherwise, once you hit a buggy save, go back to an earlier one, since there is no use continuing with a save that is going to cause CTDs: the problem will be written into the save and its bound to come up again somewhere.

 

Sorry the patch is taking so long, but to be perfectly frank i have simply been playing the game slowly and carefully, keeping an eye on things, fixing the little things that pop up and, frankly, enjoying it Long time since I simply played the damn thing. Very happy to see how many of the quests simply work - ran the second Thieves' Guild quest yesterday (a quite complicated one) and it worked very nicely indeed :mrhappy: Stupid corporal :icon_chuc

Anyways, I have got a long way into it with no CTD issues that weren't caused for a very obvious reason (the Inn). Sleeping upstairs for no more than 8 hours at a time has given me a CTD free game. The sole exception was when i slept multiple 8-hour stretches (with healings in between) at the upstairs of the Guildhouse: reloading and just doing the one 8-hour stretch there and the CTD disappeared.

Moral of the story? Only sleep 8 hours at a time, and LEAVE in between: and I mean leave to the worldmap, not just head downstairs (I tried that: got CTDs). Be strong - rest up, cast your healing spells then head out into the world with understrength clerics rather than resting again. The game isn't that tough!

One other issue: someone reported that saving on random encounter maps increases the likelihood of a corrupt save. I had always suspected that, but put it down to irrationality (since those maps are just like any other). Until I remembered last night, they are NOT like any other - the game 'clears' them before running them in a way it doesn't do with normal maps.

Also, one thing the Inn etc has in common with the random maps is a check for random encounters; just because you have a green tent indicating sleep is safe doesn't change the fact the game still runs the random encounter table (thats how it knows to give you the green tent in the first place, as many of you will know). So if this is a problem with that random encounter script (which I am starting to suspect it may be) then obviously hainging around on random encounter maps, saving there and reloading on them increases the possibility of problems. So don't do it.

 

Had another CTD returning from the Mad Hermit map, which I traced back through a number of (what turned out to be corrupted) saves to resting in the Inn (again). I've been going over the random encounter script, but otherwise I just need to test that Mad Hermit fade-and-move thing and then the patch is done.

 

First the bad news: I can't see myself even getting back online for another 3 days: some really busy RL stuff going on

Now the better news: the patch was delayed today by me working out (I think) what was causing the CTDs. Rigorous logic suggested where the problem must lie, I introduced a fix, and initial testing has been positive (CTD free) even after extended 'laying around in the Inn' sessions. Far more testing is needed but I am feeling quite good about this The rest of the patch is done, bar this.

 

Yah, I gave them what seemed to me class appropriate loot and then noticed they were just a mass of magic gear waiting to be stolen. That will be looked into in the long term. Lets hope they get in some sneak attacks

Clicking on him allows you to get to know him - like clicking on a drunk reveals he is called Elmo. Still, its an anachronism (or inconsistency) and it should show 'mangy dog' at all times. I'll fix it.

Billy has been given a very simple fix that should do the trick: I'll include that in the next patch and give it some game testing before trying anything more complicated.