New Weapons

Well, I have been able to make some progress...
which I found useless. I managed to make the
weapon one-handed (after trying to figure out
which column does that) and made be able
another weapon pretending to be the second end
of the former. However, I can not think of a way to
limit the use of it, that is to make the weapon usable
ONLY with the two parts... So, my advice is either to
make it a normal two handed axe with the stats as
they were made by Krunch (battle axe stats)
and a battle axe proficiency, or a standard one handed
battle axe, OR a great axe with worse damage (1d8 instead
of 1d12).

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Edit:Maybe I'll play with it more tomorrow... now I'm too sleepy
it 2.16AM If anyone would come up with an idea how
to make it one weapon or at least two usable only together
notify me.
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Started working on it today: I made the two axes, named
one as offhand, gave them the right stats and proficiency
values, however I can't figure out how to make them use
any different animation than the two weapon fighting one
+ I have no idea how to make a new model or at least a
file that could be used for re-meshing and changing default
animations. I know I could copy some weapons' mesh and
animations from art\mesh\ but I still wouldn't know how to
use the them in protos.
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Edit2:Figured out that last problem. For the time being
the offhand weapon uses copied sling mesh until an
invisible one is done, and the other uses greataxe2 mesh
(aslo copied and added to meshes.mes). The only thing
is making the meshes and overriding animations...

 

OK, I've got the weapon(s) in the protos
one is Orc Double Axe the other is Orc
Double Axe (Offhand). For now the former
uses Greataxe2 mesh and the latter sling.
Disregarding problems with making it work
only with the offhand part I can't create
animations... no matter what I change in
the txt for each of the weapons nothing
changes. I had to make both size_medium
so that the offhand can be equipped (the
whole weapon would be treated as a medium
one for each hand in pnp, so this is good
for a change). But the darn animations won't
change... no matter what I type in the txt files
the anims are standard... I would have to change
the PC's model anims in order to make it work...
unless someone knows a way out.

Thanks Kal, fixed that one

 

Actually, the off-hand end of a double weapon is supposed to count as light.

If both ends count as medium, the wielder is going incur penalties for TWFing with a non-light weapon in the off-hand.

 

And that's the only reason why double weapons might be worth the use of an EWP feat: with the orc double axe, you get to use the equivalent of two battleaxes while only suffering the penalties of using a battleaxe/handaxe combo. I really liked double weapons for this reason in NWN - at least until HotU made it more worthwhile to craft 2 uber weapons instead of 1.

 

I was playing around with animations but it seems
that changing them in the weapon_name.txt file
gives little effect if it's a medium sized weapon. I've
also noticed that OIF_TWO_HANDED does not work
if the weapon is medium... whenever I changed it's size
to large it was two handed, so it's seems a redundant
flag. Lastly I tried changing TWF character animations
(for example: pc_halforc_female.txt) then copying the
whole folder containing female half-orc mesh into
data\art\meshes and renaming it to halforc1 and including
this change into meshes.mes. Maybe I did something wrong
but I didn't see any difference between the original and the
new animations I made (changed all unarmed_(weaponname)_l/rattack.mae
to polearm_polearm_lattack) maybe I should also change
unarmed_unarmed... don't know.

 

Re: New Weapons :crazy:

I was looking for the quarterstaff animations,
and they're "polearm_polearm_" AFAIK I mean
there would be no problem achieving animations
I want if it were one double handed weapon...
hmm if someone could write a script giving a bonus
attack with TWF penalties and checking whether a character
has TWF feats and lowering the penalties. It would be
easy to override the light weapon thingy because i'd
make it's size small (hmm come to think of it, that's not
a good idea, since small creatures would able to use it
and it would become one-handed) however maybe this
also could be tackled by means of scripting...


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AHA! There is one animation for the quarterstaff! It's
called "staff_staff_rattack.mae"
Thanks Ted! :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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God I feel like a total moron :xeyes: There's no way of changing the animations
through editing .txt files I found out when accidentally changed the anims of staff
to great axe anims (SKA). It turned out that the character was fighting with the staff as
if it were a greataxe, however when I tried doing it the other way the game crashed.
I don't know what to do... If I only knew something about programming... So I guess
someone would have to model the weapon from quartestaff and then
write a script I was talking about earlier (if it's possible).

I might be wrong however... like I said... I'm a moron
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I REALLY don't get it... I was trying to reproduce the thing I was talking
about and the staff was animated like an axe even though I
changed ALL of the files (also the staff_1.ska). :crazy:

 

@maggit: Have you tried just copying the quarterstaff in the protos to a new number, then changing the mesh ID and leaving the rest the same. That should give you the quarterstaff anims you wanted.

Cuchulainn.

 

OK, It looks like this... The secondary
weapon is invisible thanks to the flag
OF_OFF, this unfortunately does not
solve the problem of animations. Now
it looks this way: the character smashes
first with the weapon and then hits with
his/her fist... I'll try to work on that...

 

Hmmm I've managed to "create" something
that it looks as if the person was fighting with a
double-edged weapon. Now if I could just get a
model... I'm not saying it looks perfect, actually
most may laugh at it... anyway this is what I've
produced... I know, it's quite primitive. (The weapon
is not available in any shop yet! You have to console
it by typing give 4344 and 4345 NOTE: 4344 is supposed
to be invisble + it must be placed in the main hand! ).

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Plus I still don't know how to make the weapon usable-only
when one has the two parts.

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I hope that no one suspects that I've solved the mystery
of SKA files. :grin:

 

Is there any way to add affects to current weapons? Also, can the unholy orc double axe be "un-unholyed" and made holy?

 

You have to edit it in protos.tab By the way, can I
get some feedback on the "release"?

 

A spellcaster with the Craft Arms & Armor feat can add effects to weapons, if they know the proper spells. There is an excellent crafting guide you can find by searching over at Sorcerer's Place. Not sure if a weapon can be Holy and Unholy at the same time, but to add Holy to a weapon, you have to craft it with a 7th or higher level Cleric with the Good domain.