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  1. Endarire

    Endarire Ronald Rynnwrathi

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    @_doug_
    Since ToEE doesn't have Knowledge skills and the Archivist is meant as an INT-based divine caster a la Wizard, Spellcraft is the closest analog since it's INT-based and you are doing magical things with it.

    Also, Archivist begs to have Academic Priest (and, by extension, Dynamic Priest which works as Academic Priest but uses CHA instead of WIS/INT) included! Dynamic Priest is meant mostly for Favored Souls, CHA-based Clerics, and Paladins. Similarly, the Serenity feat makes Paladins WIS-based instead of WIS & CHA-based.

    Intuitive Attack is a WIS-based Weapon Finesse, using WIS or STR to accuracy with finessible weapons, whichever is higher. Yondalla's Sense is Halfling-only, but adds WIS bonus to init.

    For other X stat to Y modifier/bonus, read this post!

    (Remember my Practiced Spellcaster concern/question regarding applying to racial and Inspire Greatness HD if the CL bonus is within the feat's limits.)
     
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  2. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    Two or more quick T+ questions:

    1) was anything done about san_use? I always felt it was bugged, as pretty much everything seems to return 'you failed to use the item'. Even the one reliable thing I can think of - using it to 'read' books (create an NPC who engages in dialogue) - has, i believe, a 'you failed to use the item' box going on behind the NPC's chatter which I seem to remember you can see if you shut the chatter down fast enough.

    Getting it working properly, so that using an item would just run the san_use script, would be awesome. Currently to do anything you basically have to make a spell and use the item from the radial menu like a wand with 'UsableItem' in the proto.

    2) I seem to remember you guys mentioning tool-tips, are these available in-game (ie in general play, not just while looking at things in the inventory)? Ideally I am wondering if there is (or could be) a python hook that could be attached to something that could be stuck in game so that, when you hovered over it, you got a float text telling you something about the thing (I am thinking of replicatng the 'question mark' hover thing in IWD, of course, but it could have a number of uses). Essentially, a 'look' command, preferably tied to san_examine :)

    3) And speaking of which, any plans (if not already done) to provide functionality for san_critical_hit, san_critter_hits and the other non-functioning sans?
     
  3. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Nothing was done about all three, though they are all very possible with a bit of work.

    There was some discussion about BG style tooltips, probably in PMs (or was it over IWD?). Certainly something I'd like to add one day...
     
  4. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Global Moderator

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    No worries :)

    I'll just quickly add (lest I confuse people) that san_use does seem to get called when you just use an item in normal play (so for instance, drinking a potion will call a san_use if it is attached to the item, with attachee as the item and triggerer as the player I believe) its just the frequent uselessness of the 'use item' function in the inventory screen that strikes me as a wasted opportunity.
     
  5. Isewein

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    It would be great if the Expanded Spell Descriptions component could be adapted for the new spells in Rudy's mod / Domain Spells mod as well. They look rather out of place as it is.
     
  6. _doug_

    _doug_ Established Member

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    Good suggestion. I'll look into it.
     
  7. Endarire

    Endarire Ronald Rynnwrathi

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    I too want the Expanded Spell Descriptions to cover mod-added spells like Ted's Bucket and Domain Spells.

    (Is Ted's bucket shiny?)
     
  8. Isewein

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    Quick question, are prestige classes properly implemented as not counting towards a possible XP Penalty? E.g., can I let's say go Rogue1/Fighter9/Dwarven Defender10 without incurring a penalty?
     
  9. _doug_

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    Xp penalties are done correctly for prestige classes.
     
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  10. Isewein

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    I'm experiencing a reproducible save game corruption on any save in the Welcoming Wench tavern ever since (no idea whether related or not) the Drinking Contest quest. Upon loading a save there, I can see the screen for a few seconds, with strangely enlarged character sprites, then get a Temple+ crash report. These are the corresponding lines from TemplePlus.log:

    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [info] Starting position for game data: 8
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Description (0)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] read 22 bytes up to 30
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Sector (1)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] read 152 bytes up to 182
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Skill (2)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] read 8 bytes up to 190
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Script (3)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] read 8412 bytes up to 8602
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Map (4)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [info] Loading map id 5007, name HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.625] [core] [info] Loading Map: maps\HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.626] [core] [info] Reading map properties from map.prp
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.633] [core] [info] Loading 181 map mobiles from maps\HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.650] [core] [info] Done loading map mobiles
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.650] [core] [info] Loading mobile diffs from Save\Current\maps\HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main\mobile.md
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [info] Done loading map mobile diffs
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [info] Loading destroyed mobile file from Save\Current\maps\HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main\mobile.des
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Silver Banded Mail (G_7F3FF499_F970_4758_8424_69A108F262CE) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Quarterstaff (G_F5B9484E_1477_48EA_BEBA_9AA8022E4B80) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Gold (G_E80A3A3D_D373_4E72_9EA4_1DA2B1BCD9F5) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Silver (G_E6B17596_6337_4B90_B8A9_2A9824010180) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Black Leather Boots (G_BD9C63AA_3F8B_493D_AF57_A7D4E0FACA8A) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Silver (G_F2363116_1B52_49C2_91B9_73E5BF841D7D) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Longsword (G_86E208E2_F937_4177_BC05_EF0EB54B03EB) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Kobort (G_FE14E2DE_7601_4A2C_A6B0_F81F8AC29817) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Scale Mail (G_EB889E3D_86F7_4E60_AE79_61D3523DE123) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Black Cloak (G_88CA246A_6C55_4076_B600_90E39F0262CF) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Gold (G_43B40504_D61E_421F_8CD3_BBAB150863AC) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Black Leather Boots (G_BC6AD012_902E_4571_BF9A_C19EBEBA7DDC) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Dagger (G_E0530C9D_1EB7_4F3B_999F_13316ED11931) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Maul (G_3CEAD777_80B0_44FD_B107_012D39E4B9DB) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Hoodless Circlet (G_CF35902B_36EE_EEE1_39AE_23A3FBB15C41) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Copper (G_E6861352_D726_41EB_89F2_61C489325A9A) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Large Steel Shield (G_77E4F0D3_6BD7_49AD_9F37_6ECBDEBAFE68) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Dagger (G_FB4FDC00_D25B_4A7E_A8CE_DBD4D066A22C) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Dagger (G_2B3A1F88_1958_4208_B785_24F07AF77562) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Black Leather Gloves (G_C2230495_EE00_D04E_726E_101DAD960519) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Monk Boots (G_9F592913_EC15_4417_B32C_758ED899DB00) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Dagger (G_F5816A93_AE48_498C_91E6_8B6FF1EE629E) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Silver (G_B7B7703A_5F43_40E8_A4B6_3831B71C69BE) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Turuko (G_037A8DF0_C259_4330_B615_6D8E22BFF1B3) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Black Monk Robes (G_DA280C75_1B44_4F0A_A4A2_B0E9681A5FA8) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Zert (G_2C0B199C_108F_4855_8056_9DBB32642988) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Gold (G_9015A63C_7CB7_4109_9611_35F5C89746E8) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Copper (G_E7D27B48_AC4E_43BE_8505_B39BBC0FD8C8) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Buckler (G_B0B9CE25_5835_4096_ADA0_2037AE4F4C45) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Ale (G_1DF01A4C_172E_497B_BCD6_74380DAF33A9) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Ale (G_FE583215_0B3C_44FD_BE71_EC7F38CBB3BA) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Ale (G_7AD738FF_9665_4AC2_8898_4CE013C95B18) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Ale (G_0769C664_DFDA_46B5_A207_40BB5CF8E66B) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.652] [core] [debug] Ale (G_6114701B_45F5_423B_89F4_9B812709A8AF) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Chunk of Meat (G_0A7D51F1_F871_47B6_BDCC_6B271E5BD70F) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Ale (G_E81AF79B_2AED_4D75_9F72_C78CEBD62079) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Rhodochrosite (G_269A976D_8857_49C3_8808_935AB4986B1B) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Black Cloak (G_9F58D6BD_0E39_45A7_950B_9C859A2F9556) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Furnok (G_D11ECAED_45A9_4E26_A4D1_50D0B3043A41) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Brown Leather Armor (G_D689BA58_50BA_429C_9E5D_FED66C776312) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Potion of Protection From Magic (G_5793C880_0DC4_490B_BFB6_95B8119EF0ED) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Gold (G_7B00D3FA_F93A_4B87_8366_A1444014E99B) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Black Pearl (G_43550A7E_B4BD_4C3E_9925_FB1C7C4700FF) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Potion of Protection From Magic (G_682E68E3_DC97_4449_A11B_17D87C618719) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Shortsword (G_389A98F5_2621_4570_9473_081A7FDD936B) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Dagger +1 (G_72906FD9_68A8_4305_9578_1801FD15E73F) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Ring of Invisibility (G_E4E33D31_AACA_4B0A_AA49_297A2E128E08) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Silver (G_CF5B2663_31C3_44EC_846E_B7B60C82A7B9) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Brown Leather Boots (G_FF16F422_BA4F_4D46_BFA7_1D6D1F5045A3) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Brown Leather Gloves (G_261BD976_F82F_4F5D_BAC6_1C3185AC0BDD) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Black Fancy Hat (G_01FFDA09_02AF_425C_B697_E8FE80C76402) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Brown Robes (G_B720F1D5_64EB_4EFB_983E_473BF230F1C0) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Tan Padded Boots (G_B0F9318B_266D_4125_8443_2E35FA1C9466) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Blue Jasper (G_4C384B21_F228_458F_B24F_3DF3EEF89C8E) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Gold (G_DA08CB94_3FF8_47C9_B84F_8E9B13F30A5C) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Spugnoir (G_4175F27D_489A_44B3_AC08_0C8103298E6F) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Dagger (G_AEF48E13_3EB6_40DD_BB5F_BA0B40FB7199) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Platinum (G_73E98AF3_56B5_4E33_B3F2_151744B6DC3B) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Hoodless Circlet (G_426F7A21_C785_4284_9992_EDB6E2FEBDCC) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [debug] Silver (G_22BE4F75_463C_4400_A700_26A751726BEE) is destroyed.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [info] Done loading destroyed map mobiles
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.653] [core] [info] Loading dynamic mobiles from Save\Current\maps\HOMMLET_03_Inn_Main\mobile.mdy
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.659] [core] [error] Unable to load object: Couldn't read the object header.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.659] [core] [info] Done reading dynamic mobiles.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.724] [core] [info] location_set_limits( 960, 960 )

    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [info] Finished loading the map
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [info] Loading Spells: 0 spells initially in SpellsCastRegistry.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading spellId 30
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [info] SpellLoad: Loaded spell Sleep id 30
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading spellId 44
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [info] SpellLoad: Loaded spell Sleep id 44
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [info] Loading Spells: 2 spells in SpellsCastRegistry after loading.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 9975 bytes up to 18577
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system LightScheme (5)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 12 bytes up to 18589
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Player (6)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 4 bytes up to 18593
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Area (7)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 28 bytes up to 18621
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system SoundGame (8)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 36 bytes up to 18657
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system Combat (9)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] read 8 bytes up to 18665
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.725] [core] [debug] Loading savegame for system TimeEvent (10)
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.756] [core] [info] Python: import marshal # builtin
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.765] [core] [info] Python: import _struct # builtin
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.781] [core] [info] Python: import binascii # builtin
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.789] [core] [info] Python: import cStringIO # builtin
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.795] [core] [error] Unable to unpickle python arg to time event.
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: Traceback (most recent call last):
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: File "templeplus/lib/templeplus/legacypickle.py", line 26, in load
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: File "python-lib/pickle.py", line 864, in load
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: KeyError
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: :
    [2021-01-05 00:01:38.796] [core] [info] Python: '\xd5'
    [20
     

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  11. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    If you .zip up your saved game files and your party's character files and attach them to a post here, perhaps @Sitra Achara will take a look at it for you.
     
  12. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Yes, sending the save files will help a lot. The character files aren't necessary.
     
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  13. Isewein

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    Ah I'm sorry - I had already overriden the corrupted saves in the meantime. I just tried to reproduce it, went back to the WW, but now saving there seems to be fine. I could swear though it was reproducible at the time - possibly something done in the meantime fixed whatever variable was off? I will make sure to backup any broken saves occurring in the future.
     
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    PS: Another strange crash, this time with save file attached. Casting the cantrip "Read Magic" with the bard (and, as I just tested, any other cantrip for that matter - Lvl 1 spells are fine though) leads to a CTD without error notification. I hope this is the right place to report this!
     

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  15. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Hi, you zipped slot043.gsi instead of slot004.gsi...
    Otherwise I wasn't able to reproduce this issue with a fresh bard.
     
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