Killed St Cuthbert without cheating

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  1. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    Bugger - he should definitely react to both events.

    Is he the guy with th bow in the pic? If so, was he a bit of a distance away?
     
  2. Half Knight

    Half Knight Gibbering Mouther

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    Hey Ted, don't know if i mentioned before...but the detail of Ronald screaming when he runs away when scared...

    :suprised: :) :p :mrhappy: :aaaa:


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  3. HeJason

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    Ya, thats the right guy, I just forgot if he did anything. I think you are right though, he did say something, I just forgot exactly. Now you got me curious and I am gonna have to do it again ;)
     
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    A real glutton for blood. I see there is one god who is NOT going to like you very much.......
     
  5. The Royal Canadian

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    Hi
    Forgive me for adding my two cents worth. In the original (paper and pencil) TOEE, Scather was a Shortsword that could only be used by CG individuals, and it attacked at the end of the round, always hitting, and always doing max { 8 HP } damage. I'm not 100% certain, but I think it would only attack people who actually HIT you, so technically, the fire damage from the Balor would NOT trigger a "counter - attack" . Furthermore, in the Original module, Prince Thrommel was a Paladin, so guess which alignment Fragarach was. If I remember correctly, Fragarach and Scather were two of a series of 9 swords ( one for each alignment ) that pretty much acted the same way.
    TRC
     
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  6. Shiningted

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    Yeah, its one of the few voiced lines that automatically works. But Endarire gets the credit there, not me ;)
     
  7. blackfly

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    Actually they were Broadswords, Final Word Type. And yes, there were nine; each for the alignments available with the exact same abilities.

    But remember, the game did not have AoO at the time, nor did it have fighters able to have Great Cleave with 25 Str scores either, so the sword was balanced for the game it was introduced into. And seeing how there were only nine, it did make the sword an artifact of sorts making it virtually impossible to find, especially by random encounter.
     
  8. mazuk3

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    i was able to kill cuthberth with no cheating in the original game, i have the game saved already, you can kill cuthberth easily because idkn why he only was chasing my wizard, so she's very squishy and i just put my warrios on line to hit him when he arrives, and thats it, to fight iuz i had to load several times before i could be able to beat him because he's a very dificult enemy, in the original game was pretty easy, in this expansion of C08 he has a sword and is by far so much difficult iirc.
     
  9. hammyh

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    Good Stuff! The tricky part with Cuthbert is surviving the initial round with no losses. But other than that, yes he is easy to slow down, unlike Iuz - who has freedom of movement.

    The real challenge is to do it legit with no buffs prior to arena - as that is the intent (surprise fight) and not use the swords of answering cheese or wounding crafted weapons.

    Edit: but it does take a while this way because his high AC means killing (x 4) a long process. So more of a ToEE bucket list. Iuz is with not nearly as high AC is a much shorter fight, if you can avoid him getting a full round of attacks on any character. Or full round from Cuthbert, especially if evil character.


    And yes, the AI does tend to chase the weaker characters. This is why Meleny is a good NPC to have for a decoy. The AI seems to like targeting her.
     
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