Icewind Dale: ToEE - Total Conversion

In the original IWD there are dead Goblins near the cave entrance and dead Beetles surrounded by live Goblins who presumably slew them, and live Beetles with dead Goblins inside the cave.

My previous versions of the ToEE version had all these guys alive and killing eachother... my next version will be more like the original.

 

I just finished my run through ToEE:IWD with the reduced XP measures and it's still a little too high, my party of 6 PC's ended on 4255 XP each as opposed to 3576 XP each in the original IWD, that's what, 679 XP too much per character? That's about 16% too much. Given that the ToEE game already lowers XP by 40XP, increasing this to 41%% should bring the total XP per character in line with the original IWD XP totals, I think I'll try that next.

 

Both fair points, another thing I hadn't even considered, is if ToEE itself is giving the correct XP values for defeated monsters... I mean I know the XP is reduced by 40% anyway, but it never even occurred to me to check if the base XP values were in fact correct.

I think I'm going to have to dig out an XP/ CR table and cross reference with ToEE's XP/CR settings first, make sure thise are correct and go from there.

As for the actual levels, they both seem to be about the same by the end of the prologue, average party level is around 3rd level, I think my Bard was 4th level, and some of the dualclass characters were level 2/3, the others were level 3 in the original, the ToEE version each character was about 1500 XP over the level 3 threshold with another 2500 XP below the 4th level threshold.

 

Assuming Troika did their homework and set the correct XP awards for each CR (and I would assume they did) then everything is fine, and tweaking the XP award limit to 41% should make this mod close to perfectly scaled to IWD.

If they got the numbers wrong, I'm tempted to just leave them wrong anyway ,since the capped XP awards are already practically balanced between the two games, and no-one complained before about being awarded less XP than they should be getting.

One discrepancy there may be, is monsters with additional class levels, I would assume the Goblin Marshal's and Elite Goblins, Orc Shaman's, and Uligar would have had additional class levels in IWD, just as they do in ToEE:IWD, whether they actually give more XP in IWD than their lesser brethren I don't know.

 

Thanks @Sitra Achara I will try it out.

 

Hey Al, sorry for my absence, very busy at the moment (but still around). I'll have better news in a few days.

 

Just glad you're still around Ted which reminds me, now I have the alterations to deities done, I should make sure Everard and Accalia register player followers of Tempus correctly in their dialogues.

 

Yeah, when I write that bit of script Sitra wants I will double check all such dialogues and correct them.

 

I fixed the religion check dialogue for Everard and Accalia, Accalia's one confused me for a little while, most of the text was referencing Diety #8 until the bottom of the page where it was referencing Diety #16, then I remembered I'd borrowed Calmert's dialogue for donations to the Church and it made sense - Diety #8 was Hieroneous, Deity #14 was St. Cuthbert.