How do you kill Iuz ??

Sorry all for jumping into this thread so late, but I have a question for Peregrine.

You said your fighter types have +6 strength items, and then you have 'em pound bull strength potions before the fight. My question is this, did you ever check to see if those potions were actually giving you another +4 to strength?

If it does, it'd be good for me to know, as I assumed the bull strength would be worthless, as it is according to D&D 3.5 stacking rules. Does this also mean that mage armor and bracers of armor stack?

Then again, I may never get far enough for it to matter anyway since I have so fringgin' many crash issues that I'm about to jam some yard darts into my eye sockets...

Ath'

 

As far as I know, they do not stack in ToEE.

 

By the rules, bracers stack with anything that doesn't have an armor bonus. So shields, rings of protection, amulets of natural armor (or spells that provide the same), etc.

In ToEE, it pretty much works the same way, except there is a bug that allows the enhancement bonus from a suit of armor to stack with a pair of bracers. If the armor you're wearing is equal to or better than the AC rating on the bracers, it's unnoticable, but if you have say suit of padded armor+3 and are wearing bracers +3, you end up with +6 to your AC.

 

So being that 3.5 stacking rules DO apply, then peregrine is wasting the bull strength potions he's chugging when he already has +6 strength enhancing items on... right?

Not that it really matters, but I thought he should know...

 

Yes. Using potions of bull's strength or casting any strength enhancing spell on someone who's wearing a girdle +6 is pointless.

 

In the "good old days" when one did not have the co8 mods, the gods were very erratic. I remember both iuz and cuthbert just STANDING there, neither attacking or doing anything. Or iuz attacking and cuthbert just standing there (no ettin)...

Its interesting how WEAK the gods are. And annoying how stupid evil characters are supposed to be (lets see, kill two gods and a demigoddess and loot the hell out of the place, or become a lowly servant, taking alot of crap from beings I Can wipe the floor with).
I remember how when I played as a bad guy I really enjoyed doing "good" quests for reward, getting anyone I could to joing my party as an npc (only to take them to the deklo woods and murder them for equipment and XP... after kicking them out of the party ofcourse), and slaughtering larath for being so rude to me (that pathetic dog should have been licking my boots ).

Then again, as a good character I have found myself very much hating the church of st cuthbert. They seem corrupt and evil to me. And I wished nothing more then to bring down st. cuthy and his band of goons.


I actually expected the gods to "recall" their items... They are GODS, surely they can do that.
I assumed Iuz only dropped his boots and cloak because they were his only non magical possessions, and he took all his worthy items with him when his avatar died.

 

I did it as a seventh lv party... Fighter 7 wielding Fragarach, and Barbarian1/ Fighter 6, and some other chars...

 

I think taltamir has the right explanation (if not alignment!) the Gods would recall anything magical from their defeated avatars, leaving behind anything not worthy of spending the effort to retrieve.

 

But wouldn't that include everrthing? If they are as mighty as they should be, then wouldn't consider the stuff they bring is trivial, because they could aswell re-create the things in a instant....

 

Well they wouldn't want to show up nekkid if stepping out ot the waterfall, and your +3 platemail or +6 robe isn't always right beside the bed in the middle of the night -also- they might not have thought they needed to bring "the good stuff" on such a trivial encounter?