Fix Suggestion: How to make rogues use ioun stones

If you don't have tools equipped, you take a -2 to those checks. (And can't take advantage of the +2 from masterwork tools, obviously.)

 

If I may say my opinion, it is an hard mess.
After all, a thief just need dexterity and intelligence. Everything else is a surplus. Once that a thief has gloves of dexterity, I think that he should invest his moneys in magical armors that would improve his stealth skills and in weapons, or rings. Maybe it would be nicer to make other generical items that could fit in the bardic instrument inventory, but it is still unfair to penalize one of them. What would be a bard without his musical instrument?
more, consider that a bard may have more than one good reason to dualclass to thief, especially if he is the main intruder in a party: the ability to detect and disarm magic traps in first, more skill points, sneak attacks, uncanny dodge and evasion in just 4 levels. If you change the ioun stone allocation slot, you are going to penalize once of thse 2 classes.

 

You're misunderstanding, Orion. No one is getting penalized by the proposed change. The only one who might have a hard time is a Bard/Rogue (which is a fairly weak combination anyway) because he'll have to switch back and forth between his tools and his instrument.

Making this modification will actually make Rogues better as they'll be able to use their tools, a belt and an ioun stone if they wish. Whereas as the way the game is designed now, they can only use one of the three.

And it won't have any effect on Bards at all beyond the effect it will have on all classes, namely the ability to use both belts and ioun stones.

 

The problem with leaving them in your inventory is they take up space that can be used for other things. The more stuff that can be equipped and leave inventory slots open, the better.

 

I personally don't care if they're stackable or not. I'm more concerned about the fact there are three types of items sharing one equipment slot while another slot goes completely unused unless a character belongs to one specific class. It just seems silly and from what I understand it's easy enough to change thieves tools and masterwork thieves tools to use the instrument slot.

As a compromise, is there a way to make something both equipable and useable from your inventory? If so, let ioun stones do that with the equipment slot being the head.

 

it sounds good to me. if it isnt added to the next mod ill do it myself. make the stones for the head and move the thieves tools to the intrument slot. wish i had thought of that before lol.

 

That's a really odd decision, considering the only stock items in game that use the head slot are circlets of persuasion, circlets of intellect and Hedrack's helmet. Everything else has been created by modders.

 

In my opinion the Ioun Stones should go in the head slot. That is where they should be correct?

Also, I think it makes sense to make them look like a head band. If you use the head band that looks like a head band but removes the hood from cloaks then you get a nice looking gold head band that holds the Ioun Stone.

That would be my vote.

- Livonya

 

I agree, and if that spell effect could be done that would be cool.