First replay in 15+ years. Some questions.

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  1. JDR13

    JDR13 Member

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    That was the problem. I had to move my diplomat to the front of the party and then it allowed me to use bluff.

    However, now I have another problem. Bluffing the guards takes you directly to the dungeon bypassing the floor in between where Burne's apprentice is. Attempting to go back up to that floor just initiates the same options with the guards again which means you either go back to the dungeon or back to the ground floor.

    So, until I can scribe Scrolls of invisibility, which I can't right now because my wizard doesn't know the spell, there doesn't appear to be anything I can do. I think Burne's apprentice might sell that scroll , but I have no way of getting to her. My only option now is to try to find a scroll of invisibility somewhere else or wait until my next level up.

    This is a poorly designed section.
     
  2. hammyh

    hammyh Established Member

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    Yes, I remember that I ran into the same frustration initially = lacking scroll. I think one of the bartenders sells the invisibility scroll in Nulb.

    If you want to cheese it a bit, I think you could use the Arena Book (Book of Champions? that you get from the weaponsmith after opening the chest. ) Activate it, then decline the fight. This should put you on the edge of Hommlet with Lareth in the party.

    Also, you may have done this already = dispel magic is needed to free Lareth iirc.

    And save just before you go in the tower. I seem to remember the dialog was a bit finicky in order to get the responses for Lareth to be a vendor...
     
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  3. JDR13

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    Thanks. I'll check there.

    I hope this is something that might get fixed in the future. Lareth being a prisoner there shouldn't block the player from having access to that merchant.
     
  4. JDR13

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    I don't know what the Arena Book is that you mention. I opened the blacksmith's chest, but I don't have that in my inventory.

    Is that perhaps only in the NC version of the patch?
     
  5. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    Probably.
    If you need Invisibility just for sneaking lareth out, I think you can use furnok's ring (you may have to take it, ah, against his will...)
    Lastly, I'm not 100% sure but maybe if you kill prisoner Lareth they stop bugging you? Not a non violent solution but close enough.
     
  6. JDR13

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    Furnock's ring would only cast invisibility on the person wearing it though right? That wouldn't work as you need everyone in the party to be invisible, and I believe the ring has a limited amount of casts per day.
     
  7. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    I meant for busting lareth out, you just need him to be invisible (after the bluff check).
     
  8. JDR13

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    Ah ok. That makes sense.
     
  9. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    It is two very well designed mods clashing which each other, because no one thought of that. (By the sounds of things someone has moved Pishella - not sure who or why, but I'm sure they had a good reason). Most people kill Lareth or use him to go to the Broken Tower fight - I don't know that the average player even uses him as a vendor any more (since we have learned, since this was implemented, how to create vendors, and have made probably dozens of others). And those who do doubtless know how to get through from previously figuring it out.
    Yes, it should be fixed. Its now on the list, thanks for bringing it up.
    Lareth vendor, Pishella, isn't all of this NC?
     
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    Not sure about Lareth as a vendor, but wasn't Pishella always in the game? CO8 just made her recruitable I think.
     
  11. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    The Burne vendor isn't pishella, it's just a regular vendor that was added. The reason was that recruiting NPCs broke the connection to their hidden container. I don’t know why she's in the basement, my guess would be due to WotGS.
     
  12. JDR13

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    I'm confused now. Which one is Pishella? Is she in Homlett?

    *Edit* Or is she not present at all without the NC patch?
     
  13. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    She's burne's apprentice, should be on the same floor as him or maybe one above. She's not NC.
     
  14. JDR13

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    Yeah, she's standing to Burne's left. I remember her now.

    I had her mixed up with the apprentice. What confused me is that Burne says "See my assistant downstairs" when you ask him about trading. That made me think the vendor was also his apprentice.
     
  15. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    All right, my mistake on the vendor. Yes, Pishella has always been there, but NC made her recruitable (as you say).
    That's funny if you think about.
     
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