elven wooden sheilds should be masterwork

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  1. taltamir

    taltamir Established Member

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    in Toee they grant +4, and a bunch of penalties. Including a limit to max dex bonus. (+1 max dex modifier)

    This makes then useless later on, since its better to use a +2 shield that does not limit dex, and gloves of dex +6 which gives +3 to AC, one more then the +2 given up by using a smaller sheild. Not to mention its lighter and has other benefits.

    With the elven chains in the game offering up to +4 max armor bonus there is really no problem there.
     
  2. lord_graywolfe

    lord_graywolfe Wolfman

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    hmm i dont know either i havnt had a problem with the elven shield though. in fact since my wizard is an elf he gets to use it without having to pick up the shield feat, same with the elven chain its the only armor he can wear but it does have a small penalty with it so i dont use it.
     
  3. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Maybe only elves get the bonus, or maybe only bard's get the bug. It has certainly had me screaming at the monitor more than once.
     
  4. taltamir

    taltamir Established Member

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    well. as far as i know masterwork and the like does NOT reduce ASF. It reduce the shield penalty, special materials reduce the weight, etc etc. But no ASF reduction in the CORE. There is plenty of that in third party stuff though.
     
  5. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Agreed, but the Elven shields list their ASF as 0%.
     
  6. taltamir

    taltamir Established Member

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    well, ill be! this is true.

    Well, this is a ToEE only thing. There is no precident for it in core.
     
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    mitrhal buckler +1 is the thing that goes closer to that shield including arcane spells penality.
     
  8. Belgham

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    There is a 3rd level ?mage/cleric spell that make the shield magical (just like the level 1 magic weapon spell) that would enable you to enchant the shield further.
     
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