Corrupted Save Files

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  1. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    You can play an Ironman game, including not using quicksave and not using autosave, and do everything right where the Ironman session becomes corrupt. The single one suggestion I can make from others' attempts is to say play a regular game using one character and follow the Ironman strategy [and don't cheat].
     
  2. FDR4PREZ

    FDR4PREZ Established Member

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    I have only been playing for a few months now. I don't have much free time, so my progress has been slow.

    I had the Nulb crash in my very first game and a complete reinstall was the only way to fix it. None of the other suggestions from the "sticky" worked. I am very happy I can now move forward in the game.

    My first install was using 5.0.3 and now I am using 5.0.4.

    But I still get corrupted save files once in a while. I never quick- or auto-save.

    The good thing is if I select cancel on the dialog and retry to reload it again and again and again, eventually it will load up.

    I have never had a currupted save file that I wasn't able to get it to eventually load after several re-attempts. Usually it seems that if I wait a few seconds (or minutes) between attempts, then the better the odds of it actually loading.

    Also, for example, I have saved a game prior to a battle and the reloaded it within a few minutes (when it turns truly bad for me) and it was "corrupt." But again, several reloading attempts and it will load up fine.

    So it is hard to say if the saved data is corrupt or if the main game engine is at fault. How can it be corrupted data if I can get the file to load at some point? I think there is something wrong with the main engine while trying to load saved games. Although since I am new around here, I ain't talking from much experience.

    Are the corrupted saved files people are complaining about truly corrupted to the point that they can never be loaded, no matter how many re-attempts are tried? Or is no one trying to reload corrupted files more than once or twice?
     
  3. maggit

    maggit Zombie RipTorn Wonka

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    I'll agree with you on one thing. You can sometimes
    load the corrupted save, although all hell may break
    lose then. I had this once, my game was corrupted
    but I tried to load it anyway, and I succeeded, but
    a few minutes later I simply couldn't play because
    of a crossbow you find at the moathouse (or was it
    a shield?) in a chest. Whenever I equipped my character
    with it the game was lagging so badly that it usually ended
    up crashing...
     
  4. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    If a saved game corrupts and you load the corrupted saved game, there is a potential that doing so can corrupt all of the saved games. IMO - do not open corrupted saved games.
     
  5. FDR4PREZ

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    I'll take your word that this could be bad news for forcing a load of a corrupted saved game, and I guess I have been lucky that I haven't had such trouble after loading one.

    I have done it quite often in these last few months of playing and never had a big issue. I do recall reloading a game and the whole game slowed to a crawl. But I don't recall if it was a "corrupted" game or not. I simply closed it all down and restarted the game and it was fine after that.

    Is the problem with the core game engine? Meaning if I load and play a plain vanilla game without any of the Co8 mods will I have the same trouble, or are the mods to blame? I certainly don't want to play an extended game without the mods. From what I hear it is nearly unbearable with a lot of bugs and whatnots.

    I don't really want to return to playing Baldur's Gate 2. There are plenty of mods for that game out there and the game is not prone to these crashes and corruptions, but I hate the fact that it is a single character based game and I hate using so many NPCs. In fact I was hoping not to use any NPCs in ToEE. Also, I am looking forward to the KotB mod.

    I just wish that I can play/finish the game without so many issues saving games.
     
  6. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    Mods aren't to blame for savegame issues. They were present in vanilla.

    Co8 requires you to turn off autosave because of the heartbeat script. But autosave broke the scripts in the vanilla game stuff too. *shrug*

    One of those things. Corruption isn't that common, but sometimes you seem to get a lot in a short period of time. C'est la vie.
     
  7. FDR4PREZ

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    Thanks for the clarification.

    Since it has been said that there is a possibility that all saved games can become corrupt, I guess I should create a backup of all the saved game files periocically.
     
  8. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    You'd probably just be better off saving very frequently and having lots of spares :)
     
  9. doginarocket

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    I'm also having this problem. I had it on my old computer, then i got a new computer last week, started a new game on the new entirely different computer and i get corrupted saves. This never happened when I played the game a couple years ago.
     
  10. zuluwarrior94

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    I'm using the Co8 mods and TOFFEE and ( I know I'm dooming myself for saying this...knocking on wood...) I've NEVER had any trouble with corrupted saves. I have the Autosave OFF and Never Quicksave. I do save fairly often, but I don't use very many slots.

    Maybe I've been lucky so far.
     
  11. Zebedee

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    It just happens - there are any number of reasons why it happens and most of the answers involve something screwy going on in the code. I've noticed that ToEE has more problems on newer computers (c.2+ years after game was released in age) than on older PCs. You just have to live with it, I'm afraid and make lots of backup saves.
     
  12. krunch

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    I don't know if that is truly the entire case. For sure, there is a range of models of nVidia video adapters with a lot of reported major problems for ToEE [typically most of all the nVidia 6800 to 7800 models]. If you exclude the nVidia video adapter issues, I would expect the number of problems would be similar in terms of how many problems - albeit different issues.
     
  13. arius

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    you can play BGII with an entire party of PCs, just start up the game in multiplayer mode instead of single player and work from there. well for the OC you can anyway, but alot of people recommend leaving one slot open so you can go through the NPC quests.


    Back on the subject, this happened to me recently as well. For me it all started when I set one of my PCs at 190,000 XP to see what he'd look like at level 20, leveled him to 20, then it all went down hill from there. I wasn't in combat or anything. It did happen to my quicksave slot first , then spread like a virus to my other save slots as I started to load them. I had plenty of recent saves to go back to but they all started getting corrupted. What I noticed is that I could usually load a save that the game flagged as corrupted, so long as I completely exited ToEE and then restarted. This usually only worked for non-quick save slots, but not the quicksave slot. One other strange thing that happened while all this was going on is that I could not exit ToEE properly. Selecting "Exit Game" from the main menu resulted in an unrecoverable freeze of my computer. ToEE is the only program in many years that has brought my computer down like that.

    EDIT: btw I'm running Co8 5.0.0 (I'm pretty sure anyway, I intented to install the 5.0.1 CMF but I'm not sure if it worked, still says 5.0.0 when I select module in ToEEFE)
     
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  14. zuluwarrior94

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    In TOFFEE the module will be listed as Co8-5.0.0, and in the Module Description on the right it'll say "Patched to ___ build and list the date."

    For Example mine says Module: Co8 -5.0.0 and the Module Description: "Patched to 5.0.4 build 6.12.07

    I tried to post the screen shot, but I don't know how. :imwithstu
     
  15. krunch

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    fyi - reminder: Do NOT use autosave and do NOT use quicksave - as in never.
     
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