My brother got this game for me just a few days ago. I heard about the many bugs it had, but because I didn't have the game until now I really didn't pay all that much attention to the issues at hand. But since receiving the game I decided to visit the Atari Forums and to me the issue of what patches work together is as clear as mud. This place seems a whole lot friendlier so I'll ask away here. First , what patch should I install first, the 2nd official patch or one of the Circle of 8 patches? What Co8 patch should I utlilize? What combinations should I avoid? Clear directions will be most welcomed! I really want to play this game, but I definitly don't want to cause conflict with the patches. Thanks for your patience.