Circle of Eight Modpack 5.9.x/5.9.xNC General Commentary & Discussion Thread

Running a NG party and got tired of the clerics of Hextor in Verbo so I cut them down. Did I act too hastily and ruin any side quests?

 

I also did the same thing with the "Brotherhood". Did I miss anything buy plowing into their hideout and taking them out?

 

Nope, as that part has not been filled out in this mod. I believe the next one, 6.0 will have it fleshed out.

As for the Red Dipchits, if you play it you can get the mission to kill Wilflick and some others from what I understand, but I never was. Maybe because I was a good party. I know others have said they have gotten some missions to work for Lerrick and his goons.

 

I'm on a 5.9.2 run with a NG party and am encountering a problem that may be a bug: I talked to Skole in Nulb and accepted his assassination quest. I then turned around and told Lodriss about it and proved it by showing her the gem. At that point, she says that she is going to tell the pirates about it and let them handle the matter. However, there is a dialogue choice that I picked where I say that I can deal with Skole for her. She thanks me, clears out with the pirates, and Nulb villagers and asks me not to break anything. I went on ahead and took out Skole and his goon then.

The problem is that Lodriss, Frederic Bentram, Tolub, the pirates inside the tavern, and the Nulb villagers inside the tavern have never returned. To be honest, I didn't notice right away as I just left when I had taken out Skole and I really didn't need to go back in. However, I noticed that during the day by the docks that Scrud Squinteye (sp?) was there with the two villagers but not Tolub. I thought that was odd so I went looking for him and that's when I found that the tavern was deserted.

I have gone back through my save games for 5.9.2 and found that this is the case in all of them so I'm skeptical that it is a saved game corruption problem.

Since there was some flakiness with the assassin due to inventories being overhauled, I'm wondering if something might have been done with Skole's and/or Lodriss' inventories that would cause this? Just a guess but I wanted to report it.

Also, if anyone would know the code for triggering Lodriss, Tolub, and the others to come back, I would really be appreciative. I want to eliminate the pirate leaders and if Tolub doesn't come back, I'm worried that I will not get that notice at the end of the game.

 

Just wanted to say I had the same bug, and furthermore RE: the assassin chain, I got the assassin encounter thanks to the file fix posted by Sitra however, when facing off with Sigmal in the temple, I could not get the two other assassins to appear, and I did not get the dialogue prompt to confront her about the letter taken off the 1rst assassin.

 

Good to hear that I'm not crazy. I haven't gotten far enough to battle the assassin leader in the temple yet. If this battle is bugged too, I'm guess I'm starting to think that the fix for the merchant refreshes may not be worth the trouble. It isn't a big deal and everything else seems to be close to being resolved.

 

Well I never used any cheats or fixes for the assassin encounter, but when you do fight Sigmal the other two killers do show up. Take it for what is worth.

 

Same issue here. When I took out Skole, Lodriss and the pirates didn't return and the tavern stays empty.

g22

 

I skipped my party ahead to Smigmal and battled her to see what sort of result I got. I found that I was able to confront her about the note and then the two assassins of hers showed up and joined the battle.

Oakheart, I have found that while you can have the note from the assassin, until you make a member of your party read it, you cannot confront Smigmal about it. Could it possibly be that no one in your party read the note before you battled Smigmal?

The tavern is still empty however.

 

I just did the Wilfrick ambush and am noticing some strange things.

1) When I was a little more than halfway done killing people (specifically when I got it I killed an archer, there were 7 guards left, plus wilfrick, and one cleric) I got the reputation for killing Verb guards. It says I will be killed on sight because I am known for this. However, the whole reason for the ambush is to have no one know that I killed Wilfrick.

2) I dominated Wilfrick, killed him, but kept him in the group. If I go to Verb, they try to arrest me. If I raise him from the dead, I cannot kick him out of the group (though I can tell him that Lerrick wants him dead haha. This is strange since Lerrick didn't tell me anything, Darlia did.). If I take living Wilfrick to Hommlet, he is invisible.

3) When I go to Hommlet now, Brother Smythe says, in the dialogue box, 'You killed the lich!'. I have never seen him do that. Only the kids have done that to me.

4) Stinking cloud makes the Wilfrick fight easy

5) The dead bodies from the Wilfrick fight begin to disappear rather quickly after it is over. I am talking within 2-3 minutes.

6) Going to Verb, I fight my way through guards to Darlia. He makes me a cousin. Lerrick says nothing to me (he is there at night). I wait till morning. Go in the guard station, go downstaitrs before they fight me, and there is the attorney (even though I am not in jail) and he starts telling me about the trial.

7) When I killed captain Absalom it made the logbook sound and flash, but nothing new was there as far as I could see. I already had constable killer.

8) If I fight my way to Lerrick in the palace (or whatever it is) he does not mention anything about Wilfirck or pardon me I can ask him about being followed. I was also able to ask Darlia about this too, but I never saw anyone in my house (I was there though, but did not own it at that point).

Other notes: If you die while your character has the option to level up, then ress them, they do not have the right to level up. They lose a lot of exp, below there current level. I did not know this before.

 

Last thing. If you dont see/help the gnomes in the moathouse, Zook does not give you a key to the door downstairs. You have to use a knock spell to open it because it cannot be picked.

 

You gotta get the key from Nibble.

 

Actually, I think that this is Ranth's point - if you don't help the gnomes in the moathouse = no Nibble. And then Zook or anyone else will not give you a key either.

 

I've been thinking more about the people missing from the Nulb tavern after the Skole battle plus the assassin not showing up issue. The 5.9.X patch has been about the addition of the AoH and VB 2.0. I believe that these other issues showed up because a few of us (myself included) complained about merchant inventories not refreshing.

However, with the new content that we are getting with the 5.9.X patch, I for one am very happy with things. So how about stepping back from the inventory thing as fixing it seems to be breaking other things? Maybe another crack can be taken at it down the line. In the meantime, it sounds like things are really close for ironing out the remaining issues for VB. AoH sounds like it solid at this point.

 

Well I made to Verbobanc and I also am one who did not rescue the Gnomes, though I do have the ring. Was interesting that Zook did not comment on where I acquired the ring.

So I can confirm that no one is around to give you the key, buy the DC on the lock was only 33, so your rogue should not have a problem if you do not want to waste a Knock on it.