Break free and AI questions

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  1. Shiningted

    Shiningted The Thunder of Justice Administrator

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    Today. It was hanging there in plain sight, I snuck up and had it at my mercy.
     
    Shiningted, Jul 17, 2006
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  2. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    Uh, Ted, you do know there is a "Break Free" option in the Radial Menu under movement, right?
     
    Kalshane, Jul 17, 2006
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  3. Shiningted

    Shiningted The Thunder of Justice Administrator

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    Errrr, I do now? :blush:
     
    Shiningted, Jul 18, 2006
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  4. Spellslinger

    Spellslinger Established Member

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    Just to clarify this: All of you having replied above, do the NPCs try to break free when you have entangled them?
     
    Spellslinger, Jul 19, 2006
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  5. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    I've never seen any non-player controlled NPC, who failed his initial saving throw, escape from the entangle spell. Though on my last run through, my Dwarven Druid seemed to be completely immune to it's effects (and the efects of the web spell as well).
     
    Allyx, Jul 19, 2006
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  6. Keolander

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    I must say I can't stand the fact that Rannos and Gremag get a 'break out of web' free card when you manage to corner them in the shop. I know some people think it gives them more of a chance, but its more like it gives them a totally unfair advantage and makes them basically unkillable. I'm not trying to wiz on Livonya's work, but it seems there was no allowance made for Rannos/Gremag being webbed, charmed or otherwise incapacitated in the scriptings. They get to break free automatically.
     
    Keolander, Jul 19, 2006
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  7. Shiningted

    Shiningted The Thunder of Justice Administrator

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    They are MEANT to get away for the plot. Cheesy perhaps, but a common enough gaming device.

    <grumble mumble like my Daemon is MEANT to get away grumble damn players mumble...>
     
    Shiningted, Jul 19, 2006
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  8. Salk

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    Well, I got to kill both of them at the shop in a regular battle...So it's not at all impossible but are you saying that this is not supposed to happen ? :zap:
     
    Salk, Jul 19, 2006
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  9. Zebedee

    Zebedee Veteran Member Veteran

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    No, it's just meant to be very difficult to kill them before they escape. Before the script for helping them to get away was implemented, it really was too easy to kill them both - purely from the size of the room in which they normally live.
     
    Zebedee, Jul 19, 2006
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  10. Keolander

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    True, but the fact that they get out of a web/charm person/hold person free really chaps my arse. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander....-_-
     
    Keolander, Jul 19, 2006
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  11. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    I rather thought Druids got to do this at a certain level, but not with webs. Maybe that's what you were seeing?
     
    Lord_Spike, Jul 20, 2006
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  12. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    Druids shouldn't be immune to Entangle. Their abilities only apply to natural terrain, not spell area of effects.

     
    Kalshane, Jul 20, 2006
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  13. Cerulean the Blue

    Cerulean the Blue Blue Meanie Veteran

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    What he was seeing is a bug in the game that has been around forever. Dwarfs are immune to web, entangle, and hold person. It is like they have a permanent Freedom of Movement Spell cast on them.
     
    Cerulean the Blue, Jul 20, 2006
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  14. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    Everyone ought to be playing parties of dwarves, then. Or perhaps they will now begin doing so. :shame: No fix in sight, I'll wager, either.

    Kal, I'm sure that's what I was thinking of, except in 1E form; they can Pass without Trace beginning at 7th level.
     
    Lord_Spike, Jul 20, 2006
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  15. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    They get it at 3rd level in 3.5, but it has also has no effect on moving through magically-affected areas.
     
    Kalshane, Jul 20, 2006
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