(solved, not a bug)bards do not add cha to spell save DC on tasha's hideous laughter I have a bard, his stats are: STR 11 DEX 21 CON 20 INT 15 WIS 10 CHA 25 (he has a bunch of +6 to stat items). I noticed tasha's hideous laughter never works. So I looked at it and I saw that the DC to resist it is 14. It should be 18=10+1 spell level on bard list+7 cha mod... i think it works off of the "wizard" casting and counts it as 10+2 spell level (on wizard list)+2 int mod EDIT: It seems that it was simply a +4 racial bonus if type differs from that of the of caster. it is implemented by -4 to DC rather then +4 to their roll. (And giants are not humanoid)