About Elmo

Discussion in 'The Temple of Elemental Evil' started by wizgeorge, Jun 23, 2007.

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  1. wizgeorge

    wizgeorge Prophet of Wizardy

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    In the original T1 module Elmo is a 4th level ranger but it doesn't say what his alignment is. In the protos he is a fighter, chaotic good, but the deity is OldFaith. He's not associated with the Church of St.Cuthbert, but he is a agent for the Viscount of Verbobonc. His brother, Otis, is off with Canoness Y"Dey on a quest. The storyline here is very muddled. Why would a chaotic good worship a typically druidical deity? And work for a neutral good St. Cuthbert viscount? I don't think the Troika writers had their D&D down well or got some strange advice.
     
  2. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    C'mon George, you've been here long enough to know we've argued this before ;) Elmo is certainly not by the module, but I think they got him pretty close.

    Since i only have T1, perhaps someone with the whole series can shed some light on his background? I don't tihnk the Old Faith thing is too unbelieveable, because it would presumably be how he was raised - even if he went on to bigger and better things in the big city, still he may keep to the faith of his youth.
     
  3. Cujo

    Cujo Mad Hatter Veteran

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    just out of interest could someone post Elmo's info as it appears in T1 please.
     
  4. Hipphappsero

    Hipphappsero Member

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    I think, this is what you need:
     
  5. Fernando

    Fernando Established Member

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    :blink:

    Please don't tell me that his valuables' chest is somewhere in ToEE, and I'm finding about it a year and a half later... :blush:
     
  6. Hipphappsero

    Hipphappsero Member

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    I don't know, this was in the original ToEE modul :roll: :)
     
  7. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    That about covers it. His dad is a 'retired' fighter, level 4, and captain of the militia; but he won't just offer that tidbit of information to newcomers. He's the old faith worshipper. Otis & his followers are the chief servants of the Viscount, and they are NG. Elmo is CG, and is a less important figure in the service of the Viscount. Otis will get curious if Elmo gets in trouble (or worse), and will come looking for answers. Elmo spies on moathouse explorers, and Otis on Temple delvers.

    As for Troika, weren't they given a copy of T 1-4 to work from? I recall smoret saying this once upon a time. They had to decide what to keep; what to flesh out; and what to ditch.
     
  8. maggit

    maggit Zombie RipTorn Wonka

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    That's a real shame they had to ditch many things... Some of those
    revelations are new to me... and I must say that I am sometimes
    astounded by the depth of the story... and the lack of it's representation
    in the game itself. :(
     
  9. Sachmo

    Sachmo Knight of the Crown

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    The old guy in that big house surrounded by a rock walled fence did warn me that there is more than meets the eye with Elmo. He encouraged me to seek him out.


    I have always thought whilst exploring Hommlet and all its rooms and dungeons that there seemed to be room for so much more to be happening. I always used to wonder if the game was rushed to release without being fully completed. (All the bugs the game originally had used to strengthen my opinion)

    It is a real shame. I do love this game but if wasn't for your Mods I would have stopped playing it years ago.
     
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  11. Shiningted

    Shiningted I want my goat back Administrator

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    Heh, I never knew about the longbow (the earlier description is from the T1-4 full module, not the T1 Village of Hommlet I owned which is similar but not identical). It would have settled the 'twf vs bow' issue for Elmo ranger.
    And that, in a nutshell, is the problem. Elmo was a 1e ranger with a shield, chainmail and a BIG axe that people wanted to turn into a 3.5 twf-er. Glad we never did.

    The wiki seems to largely be from Return to ToEE, but don't take my word.
     
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