Co8 4.1.0

Well, if 4.1 is ready to go, I would say don't wait on me. Even if I finish as soon as I'm expecting, I'd like to run through the entire game once using the updated protos (and if others would like to do so, I'd appreciate it) to make sure everything works as it should, since all my testing so far has involved spawning all the creatures I've changed in the moathouse. There might be some wierdness when they're in their native environment. (I know one of the Water Clerics has a heartbeat script that outside of the Water temple causes him and any other NPCs in combat with him to skip their actions. I have no idea why.)

 

If you want to do it that way, that's cool by me. But we need to know if the inventory fix script that CB and Darmagon are working works. (Of course, I have to get CB the info he wanted first...) If not, I'll need to rework a bunch of NPCs before we have anything releasable.

 

i volunteer to be beta test crew.. unfortunatley my stuff isnt going to be beta testabale for a few weeks yet .. (lack of solid programming time and plentey of hex to go thru..)especially with the request from the dll fix thread..

but maybe it will be finished before the proper release of 4.1

 

I dont know if it will help, but Im new to this community, and just yesterday got toffee 4.0.0 loaded in and started playing. For that matter, I just got the game last month(bargain bin, saw d&d, brought back memories from games played 20 years ago.) I would like to help test it out. Dont know what I can do other than play it. Anything else a rookie could do?

 

Okay, I have been spending an inordinate amount of time testing my spells before they actually get officially released. The release here in the modder's forum was in hopes that some few of you could find some time to test this stuff. Apparently not many have had the time, which I totally understand. In any case, I guess that at some point soon I am going to have to go out on a limb and say it is done. Mordenkainen's Sword was my most recent venue and I found some stuff there that needed to be fixed. And then there is the fact that Disintegrate should destroy the Sword, but what should it's saving throw be, or should it even get one? The spell interactions, like this, are what really is getting to me. And the fact that conditions added upon objects in inventory react to spells differently than do conditions on the critter itself (cf. my fix to heal to allow it's effects when Tenser's Transformation is in effect, and avoid a CTD)

In any case, I think that what I have now should be safe enough to release. I haven't crawled into all of the crannies possible, but I have done as much as I could think of to test and fix this. So, along with, the mass heal sounds that Gaear has provided me and a major fix to Disintegrate to get it working properly, tomorrow will see the first official release of all Darmagon's (with major additions by Gaear) spells to date. I will include the paladin/ranger stuff as, AFAIK, they are only available with Ted's mod. Since we have no other way yet to include those spells for paladins and rangers I think they should be included. I am also going to include a fix for Ray of Clumsiness to take into account critical hits As I read the rules, all ray spells that require a die roll to determine damage of any sort, have a potential for scoring a critical hit and doing double damage. I have already taken this into account with Disintegrate and will be changing Ray of Clumsiness as well. The already in game ray spells I will not touch for now as they are not mine....

EDIT: none of the spells I am working on that have not had any kind of release yet will be included. So: Time Stop, Warp Wood, Iron Body, The Bigby's Hand spells, The Wall Spells, The Power Word spells, the Summon Nature's Ally/Summon Monster spells, etc. (as I have said I have the basics roughed out for most of the spells I think could be included in the game.) will not be included. Oh, I might be able to do Polar Ray and Mass Harm before tomorrow but I think that Gaear deserves more time, if he is interested, to develop sounds for those spells. And I would need more time to develop eye-candy for them.. (Speaking of which, I have not done the eye-candy for some of my own spells yet, that would have to come later.)
Darmagon

 

Reading the description of Disintigrate and M. Sword, I would say there is no saving throw. If someone hits it with Disintigrate, it's gone.

Some minor quibbles:

Ray of Enfeeblement doesn't do Strength damage, it applies a Strength penalty. As such, its effects would not be doubled by a critical hit. (So neither should Ray of Clumsiness.)

There is no Mass Harm in the 3.5 rules. I'd be hesitant to include such a spell as it would be really, really powerful. It's the equivalent of a Maximized and Empowered Horrid Wilting, but only at 1 spell level higher.

Looking forward to checking out your new spells.

 

Glad you pointed out the lack of Mass harm in the game. And also glad you made the distinction for ray of enfeeblement. I think you are right and ray of clumsiness should also not have a critical hit. Disintegrate is more problematic as it does straight damage, but unlike most ray spells, it allows a saving throw. The rules state that any ray spell that requires a roll for damage will do double damage on a confirmed critical. However, most ray spells do not have any saving throw, Disintegrate does. However I am inclined to go with the regular ray damage and double the damage regardless of save status for Disintegrate because it does straight hp damage, on a critical hit.

Darmagon

 

I agree about disintigrate. It does damage, so that damage should double on a crit. It should do double normal damage if the save fails (which should kill just about anything) and double the 5d6 on a critical if the save succeeds. I'm not sure if that's what you said you were going to do or not.

 

Ok, I have tried out some of Damagon's spells...

ToEE with Patch 1 & 2, Co8 4.0.0 with the 4.0.1 patch applied, Damagon's spells.

Prismatic Spray - used multiple times, very pretty, seems to work is it should (and if you send a victim to another plane you don't get to loot their stuff which is as it should be).
Disintegrate - used lots, works fine - nice effect!
Mordenkainan's Sword - so far I've used it once, as the game CTD's when the spell expires. It looks nice, but I've noticed a small graphic glitch just between it and its circle (just a few pixels in size).

I hope this helps.

Charles