Assigning Existing Animations to .SKA File

Zoltec · Sep 15, 2013

This thread enable us to research on how to implement an existing animation through hex edit of .SKA file remember this is a trial and error basis. Though as a special request I want to invite XVicious to guide me on this research; especially on hex reversing.

PC_Human_Male.SKA

01 01 02 00 44 74 02 00 01 00 00 00 1D 00 FF FF BD BD 0A 3F 65 6B 5D 42 24 B5 03 unarmed_unarmed_walk ;not drunk

NPC_Elmo.SKA

01 01 02 00 2C 0B 02 00 01 00 00 00 33 00 FF FF 59 E7 73 3F 17 E7 FB 41 2C 32 03 unarmed_unarmed_walk ;drunk

Note that they are in the same BLOCK 2790, meaning to say, there's only a bit of difference in there. Also note that they use the same unarmed_unarmed_walk.mae.

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Format

_walk

01 01 02 00 ?? ?? ?? 00 01 00 00 00 ?? 00 FF FF ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

_run

01 01 02 00 ?? ?? ?? 00 01 00 00 00 ?? 00 FF FF ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ?? ??

NOTE red corresponds to the weapon type used
NOTE white corresponds to [still unknown]
NOTE yellow corresponds to the animation used

Model Animation - Weapon

15; _run
all weapon animation

1D; _walk
greatsword_greatsword_
spear_spear_
staff_staff_
polearm_polearm_
bow_bow_
crossbow_crossbow_
sling_sling_
2Hflail_2Hflail_

33; _walk
unarmed_unarmed_
unarmed_dagger_
unarmed_sword_
unarmed_shield_
dagger_unarmed_
dagger_dagger_
dagger_sword_
dagger_shield_
sword_unarmed_
sword_dagger_
sword_sword_
sword_shield_

Weapon Animation

00
sling_sling_
2Hflail_2Hflail_

01
unarmed_dagger_
unarmed_sword_
unarmed_shield_
dagger_unarmed_
dagger_dagger_
dagger_sword_
dagger_shield_
sword_unarmed_
sword_dagger_
sword_sword_
sword_shield_
greatsword_greatsword_
spear_spear_
staff_staff_
polearm_polearm_
bow_bow_
crossbow_crossbow_

02
unarmed_unarmed_

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REPLY BOX

OK you got my attention Zoltec

I pulling out some hex tools now...one moment
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Are you sure Xvicious? Tis gonna be hellish! :smarty:
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09120: 00 00 00 00 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F 75 6E 61 72 |....unarmed_unar
09136: 6D 65 64 5F 72 74 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |med_rturn.......
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I also found that in .SKA file but it's starting address is different 23A4

Looking at prev post *^

23a4 converts into 9124
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That's cool!

09120: 00 00 00 00 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F 75 6E 61 72 |....unarmed_unar
09136: 6D 65 64 5F 72 74 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |med_rturn.......
09152: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09168: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09184: 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 90 76 02 00 01 00 00 00 |.........v......
09200: 1A 00 FF FF DC A5 FE 40 3B 46 71 40 E2 60 03 00 |.......@;Fq@.`..
09216: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09232: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09248: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09264: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09280: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09296: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09312: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09328: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09344: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09360: 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F |unarmed_unarmed_
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Is this an .SKM file?

SKA FILE for human male
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I'm using Elmos'
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Here's the link for hex editor web

XVicious · Sep 16, 2013

Looking at prev post *^

23a4 converts into 9124 decimal

your hex addressing is different
the one Im using is decimal addressing sorry
if I failed to mention that

Im not using some ordinary hex editor or debug program that came with
DOS

I made this one
it converts very large files
and does string replace algorithm on files
too large for windows to want too open and view

can your hex editor hex hack a never winters night saved game for free?
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OK you got my attention Zoltec

I pulling out some hex tools now...one moment

what I see here in the SKA is all the Bones and weights
defined the same way as the SKM

(I had too shorten this alot)

using this as a reference it says

91 bones at offset 24 ending at
offset 9124 (dec)

I think it aslo state's here that there are
684 of these tags or actions that follow them

at offset 9124 (dec) is exactly where the animation tags begin

edit:

By the Numbers:
you could confirm this too maybe, is what I saw there
was the animation tag data block is 236 bytes long
per block
( 236 multiplied by 684 ) + the offset 9124 =
170548
base 10

if you look down there you see at offset the start of the event tags ?
you see tag for event (11) as "action"

So just a thought, I think those numbers that you are thinking "unknown"
these could be actual bone orientation floating points numbers for X,Y,Z

Im not going to explain to you how to convert hex into floats, to get the real
number equalivant

what I will tell you is that these look too be 4 bytes in size per float

(I could be wrong though , Im only guessing

A real number is a sly way of saying a number that has a decimal place.
algebraic number
i.e.
pi = 3.143
or -1.001

so when you compaired the Elmo SKA and the regular Human PC SKA
you noticed a difference in the orientation of the model perhaps
that would be correct, and that they should be different, because
one is walking drunk and disorientated, thee other is walking straight.

So you made a good choice for animations to compare here

SKA FILE for human male

left bar decimal address by byte (a.k.a. base 10)
right bar readable text via (simple alpha) ascii
Code:
00000: 5B 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 23 00 00 |[............#..
00016: AC 02 00 00 A4 23 00 00 00 00 FF FF 42 69 70 30 |.....#......Bip0
00032: 31 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |1...............
00048: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00064: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 FB FF 7F 3F |...............?
00080: 02 00 80 3F 01 00 80 3F 00 00 00 00 86 A9 98 BE |...?...?........
00096: DC 85 16 BF 2A 9C 1D BF E3 02 DD 3E 00 00 00 00 |....*......>....
00112: 8E 0D 09 42 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |...B............
00128: 42 69 70 30 31 20 46 6F 6F 74 73 74 65 70 73 00 |Bip01 Footsteps.
00144: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00160: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00176: 03 00 80 3F FA FF 7F 3F 01 00 80 3F 00 00 00 00 |...?...?...?....
00192: 23 52 C1 BD A1 5C A0 BC 05 E2 59 3F 11 1D 04 3F |#R...\....Y?...?
00208: 04 C9 C4 40 28 7C 0B C0 E7 75 05 C2 00 00 00 00 |...@(|...u......
00224: 00 00 00 00 42 69 70 30 31 20 50 65 6C 76 69 73 |....Bip01 Pelvis
00240: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00256: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00272: 00 00 00 00 01 00 80 3F 00 00 80 3F 01 00 80 3F |.......?...?...?
00288: 00 00 00 00 D9 36 02 BF E2 36 02 BF 47 7E FB BE |.....6...6..G~..
00304: 58 7E FB 3E 00 00 00 80 00 00 00 80 BD 37 86 35 |X~.>.........7.5
00320: 00 00 00 00 00 00 02 00 42 69 70 30 31 20 53 70 |........Bip01 Sp
00336: 69 6E 65 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |ine.............
00352: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00368: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 00 80 3F 02 00 80 3F |...........?...?
00384: 00 00 80 3F 00 00 00 00 19 7B 24 BE F8 8C 1E BD |...?.....{$.....
offset 9124
Code:
09120: 00 00 00 00 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F 75 6E 61 72 |....unarmed_unar
09136: 6D 65 64 5F 72 74 75 72 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |med_rturn.......
09152: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09168: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09184: 00 00 00 00 02 01 00 00 90 76 02 00 01 00 00 00 |.........v......
09200: 1A 00 FF FF DC A5 FE 40 3B 46 71 40 E2 60 03 00 |.......@;Fq@.`..
09216: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09232: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09248: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09264: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09280: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09296: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09312: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09328: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09344: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
09360: 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F 75 6E 61 72 6D 65 64 5F |unarmed_unarmed_
the first action I see is here
Code:
170544: 00 00 00 00 0B 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E 00 00 00 00 |......action....
170560: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170576: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170592: 00 00 00 00 00 00 42 69 70 30 31 00 00 00 00 00 |......Bip01.....
170608: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170624: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170640: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170656: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170672: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170688: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
170704: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
I hope this is helping.

Zoltec · Sep 15, 2013

Ok. Let's say in block 9590 of NPC_Elmo.SKA I changed its value to 9662 which is the flurry one i.e. 04 00 04 D4 00 00 01 00 00 00 2E 00 FF FF 00 00 F0 41 00 00 00 00 60 17 18. It works in-game but can't render the animation, elmo is not moving while attacking... So to say it's not reading the animation... even its changed... Also V2Brute seems to crash too when loading the animation of unarmed_unarmed_rattack... which I changed...

XVicious · Sep 16, 2013

I think you changing animation name tag inside SKA is not the way to do that
it could be, but I also notice the animation scripts inside the

txt file
example human male txt

I would say insted of trying to change the tag referenced , try changing only the
data, swapping it for the one your trying to change.

my guess is that it is linked together in more then one file
so when it parses the SKA, its also parsing some other data for same tag in
another thread. like the SKM and the mae referenced in the text.

I would also guess that the data block is referencing an offset that points
to the animation data block inside the SKA but near the end of the file.
after all the name tags and actions are named (a.k.a. events).

I believe the name tags reference the actions blocks possibly then the actions
reference the animation block, and then the TOEE anima engine is changing the
data origin from the SKM using the anima data block as a indexed reference based on bones and weights .

the actions I see have also laced in scripts for python for particles and sounds,
or other mislaneous translations.

a good example of that would be the script python ref for foot step,
this would mean when the data reaches that point it creates the sound for the foot
step I would guess + any rules the incorprate it being a step through python, talking to TOee rules engine.

edit:
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So I would conclude changing the script inside the text file would be the best way
to change the animation, using the original data.

if you are looking to swap animations, I would suggest the simplest solution,
use the elmo ska with the PC human,
or try swapping only the data and not the tag references.

(shortend)
text file

Code:


skeleton "Unarmed_Unarmed_combatidle.mae" 
{
	quality 0.05
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rattack" "unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 11 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lattack" "unarmed_unarmed_lattack.mae"
{
	event 10 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_walk" "unarmed_unarmed_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_run" "unarmed_unarmed_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_idle" "unarmed_unarmed_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_fhit" "unarmed_unarmed_fhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lhit" "unarmed_unarmed_lhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rhit" "unarmed_unarmed_rhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_bhit" "unarmed_unarmed_bhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rcriticalswing" "unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 11 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lcriticalswing" "unarmed_unarmed_lattack.mae"
{
	event 10 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_fidget" "unarmed_unarmed_fidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_fidget2" "unarmed_unarmed_fidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_fidget3" "unarmed_unarmed_fidget3.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_sneak" "unarmed_unarmed_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_panic" "unarmed_unarmed_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}


animation "unarmed_unarmed_rcombatstart" "unarmed_unarmed_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lcombatstart" "unarmed_unarmed_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_combatidle" "unarmed_unarmed_combatidle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_combatfidget" "unarmed_unarmed_combatfidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_special1" "unarmed_unarmed_special1.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_special2" "unarmed_unarmed_special2.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_special3" "unarmed_unarmed_special3.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_fdodge" "unarmed_unarmed_fdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rdodge" "unarmed_unarmed_rdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_ldodge" "unarmed_unarmed_ldodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_bdodge" "unarmed_unarmed_bdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rthrow" "rthrow.mae" 

{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lthrow" "lthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_unarmed_lsnatch" "unarmed_unarmed_lsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rsnatch" "unarmed_unarmed_rsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_rattack" "unarmed_sword_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_lattack" "dagger_dagger_lattack.mae"
{
	event 14 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_walk" "unarmed_sword_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_run" "unarmed_sword_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_idle" "unarmed_dagger_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_fhit" "sword_sword_fhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_lhit" "sword_sword_lhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rhit" "sword_sword_rhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_bhit" "sword_sword_bhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rcriticalswing" "dagger_dagger_lattack.mae"
{
	event 14 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_lcriticalswing" "dagger_dagger_lattack.mae"
{
	event 14 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_fidget" "Dagger_dagger_fidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_fidget2" "unarmed_dagger_fidget2.mae"



animation "unarmed_dagger_sneak" "bow_bow_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_panic" "unarmed_dagger_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}


animation "unarmed_dagger_rcombatstart" "unarmed_dagger_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_lcombatstart" "unarmed_dagger_lcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_combatidle" "sword_sword_combatidle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_combatfidget" "sword_sword_combatfidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_special1" "unarmed_dagger_special1.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_special2" "unarmed_dagger_special2.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_special3" "unarmed_dagger_special3.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_fdodge" "sword_sword_fdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rdodge" "sword_sword_rdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_ldodge" "sword_sword_ldodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_bdodge" "sword_sword_bdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rthrow" "rthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_lthrow" "lthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_dagger_lsnatch" "unarmed_dagger_lsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_dagger_rsnatch" "unarmed_dagger_rsnatch.mae"


animation "unarmed_sword_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "unarmed_sword_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "unarmed_sword_rattack" "unarmed_sword_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_lattack" "sword_sword_lattack.mae"
{
	event 9 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_walk" "unarmed_sword_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_run" "unarmed_sword_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_idle" "unarmed_dagger_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_sword_fhit" "sword_sword_fhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_lhit" "sword_sword_lhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_rhit" "sword_sword_rhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_bhit" "sword_sword_bhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_rcriticalswing" "unarmed_sword_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_lcriticalswing" "sword_sword_lattack.mae"
{
	event 10 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_fidget" "unarmed_dagger_fidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_sneak" "bow_bow_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_panic" "unarmed_shield_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}


animation "unarmed_sword_rcombatstart" "unarmed_sword_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_lcombatstart" "unarmed_sword_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_combatidle" "sword_sword_combatidle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_sword_combatfidget" "unarmed_sword_combatfidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_special1" "unarmed_sword_special1.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_special2" "unarmed_sword_special2.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_special3" "unarmed_sword_special3.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_fdodge" "sword_sword_fdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_rdodge" "sword_sword_rdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_ldodge" "sword_sword_ldodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_bdodge" "sword_sword_bdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_rthrow" "rthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_lthrow" "lthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_sword_lsnatch" "unarmed_sword_lsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_sword_rsnatch" "unarmed_sword_rsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "unarmed_shield_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "unarmed_shield_rattack" "unarmed_sword_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_lattack" "unarmed_shield_lattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_walk" "unarmed_sword_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_run" "unarmed_sword_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_idle" "unarmed_dagger_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_shield_fhit" "sword_sword_fhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_lhit" "sword_sword_lhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rhit" "sword_sword_rhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_bhit" "sword_sword_bhit.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rcriticalswing" "unarmed_sword_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_lcriticalswing" "unarmed_shield_lattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_fidget" "unarmed_dagger_fidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_sneak" "bow_bow_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_panic" "unarmed_shield_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}


animation "unarmed_shield_rcombatstart" "unarmed_shield_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_lcombatstart" "unarmed_shield_lcombatstart.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_combatidle" "sword_sword_combatidle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "unarmed_shield_combatfidget" "sword_sword_combatfidget.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_special1" "unarmed_shield_special1.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_special2" "unarmed_shield_special2.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_special3" "unarmed_shield_special3.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_fdodge" "sword_sword_fdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rdodge" "sword_sword_rdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_ldodge" "sword_sword_ldodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_bdodge" "sword_sword_bdodge.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rthrow" "rthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_lthrow" "lthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "unarmed_shield_lsnatch" "unarmed_shield_lsnatch.mae"

animation "unarmed_shield_rsnatch" "unarmed_shield_rsnatch.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_rattack" "dagger_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_lattack" "sword_unarmed_lattack.mae"
{
	event 11 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_walk" "sword_unarmed_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_run" "sword_unarmed_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_idle" "sword_unarmed_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_fhit" "sword_sword_fhit.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_lhit" "sword_sword_lhit.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rhit" "sword_sword_rhit.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_bhit" "sword_sword_bhit.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rcriticalswing" "dagger_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_lcriticalswing" "dagger_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_fidget" "Dagger_unarmed_fidget.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_fidget2" "Dagger_dagger_fidget.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_sneak" "bow_bow_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_panic" "dagger_unarmed_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}


animation "dagger_unarmed_rcombatstart" "dagger_unarmed_rcombatstart.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_lcombatstart" "dagger_unarmed_lcombatstart.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_combatidle" "sword_sword_combatidle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_combatfidget" "sword_sword_combatfidget.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_special1" "dagger_unarmed_special1.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_special2" "dagger_unarmed_special2.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_special3" "dagger_unarmed_special3.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_fdodge" "sword_sword_fdodge.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rdodge" "sword_sword_rdodge.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_ldodge" "sword_sword_ldodge.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_bdodge" "sword_sword_bdodge.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rthrow" "rthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_lthrow" "lthrow.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_unarmed_lsnatch" "dagger_unarmed_lsnatch.mae"

animation "dagger_unarmed_rsnatch" "dagger_unarmed_rsnatch.mae"


animation "dagger_dagger_rturn" "unarmed_unarmed_rturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle 180
}

animation "dagger_dagger_lturn" "unarmed_unarmed_lturn.mae"
{
	loopable
	angle -180
}

animation "dagger_dagger_rattack" "dagger_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
	event 12 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_lattack" "dagger_dagger_lattack.mae"
{
	event 14 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_walk" "sword_sword_walk.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 21 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_run" "sword_sword_run.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
	event 7 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
	event 17 "script" "anim_obj.footstep()"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_idle" "sword_sword_idle.mae"
{
	loopable
}

animation "dagger_dagger_fhit" "sword_sword_fhit.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_lhit" "sword_sword_lhit.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_rhit" "sword_sword_rhit.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_bhit" "sword_sword_bhit.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_rcriticalswing" "dagger_dagger_rcriticalswing.mae"
{
	event 23 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_lcriticalswing" "dagger_dagger_rcriticalswing.mae"
{
	event 23 "action" "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_fidget" "Dagger_dagger_fidget2.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_fidget2" "Dagger_dagger_fidget.mae"

animation "dagger_dagger_sneak" "bow_bow_sneak.mae"
{
	loopable
	distance "Bip01"
}

animation "dagger_dagger_panic" "sword_sword_panic.mae"
{
	loopable
}

Zoltec · Sep 16, 2013

edit:

By the Numbers:
you could confirm this too maybe, is what I saw there
was the animation tag data block is 236 bytes long
per block
( 236 multiplied by 684 ) + the offset 9124 =
170548
base 10

if you look down there you see at offset the start of the event tags ?
you see tag for event (11) as "action"
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236 is constant.
what about 684?

I've seen the event tags.

if you are looking to swap animations, I would suggest the simplest solution,
use the elmo ska with the PC human,
or try swapping only the data and not the tag references.
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Yes, I'd already tried swapping the .SKA files that's why I'm intrigue and curious about this. But my only aim is to swap different animations for example unarmed_unarmed_rattack will be flurry, so to say I'l use flurry animation instead of unarmed_unarmed_rattack, but I will not change its name in .SKA file, but only its data.

@BLOCK 9584 to 9616 covers the animation reference

@BLOCK 9648 to 9680 covers the animation data (maybe?)

Maybe the animation data is connected to NPC_Elmo.txt or the NPC_Elmo.txt is simply a conversion of NPC_Elmo.SKA file.

I only changed the animation data, using the flurry animation data.

I used the formula in 9648 to get 171072; I'm thinking that this (171072) is the starting event; ends by the next animation reference.

I think you changing animation name tag inside SKA is not the way to do that
it could be
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No I'm changing the animation data not the (reference i.e. unarmed_unarmed_rattack).

Zoltec · Sep 16, 2013

SKM attributes

mdf pointer this hex function contains the mdf path to retrieve the models textures.

model this hex function contains vertex, faces, and counts forming a single array body of meshes.

parent bone or Bip01 this is the parent bone that identifies child bones. Which consists the following child bones:

Bip01 Footsteps
Bip01 Pelvis
Bip01 Spine
Bip01 L Thigh
Bip01 L Calf
Bip01 L Foot
Bip01 L Toe0
Dummy04
FootL_ref
#Cylinder[0]={3.101000,20.571400}
#Cylinder[1]={3.919000,18.838234}
#Sphere[0]={3.438641}
Bip01 R Thigh
Bip01 R Calf
Bip01 R Foot
Bip01 R Toe0
Dummy03
FootL_ref
#Cylinder[2]={3.101000,20.571400}
#Cylinder[3]={3.919000,18.838234}
#Sphere[1]={3.438641}
Bip01 Spine1
Bip01 Spine2
Bip01 Neck
Bip01 Head
Bip01 Ponytail1
Bip01 Ponytail11
Bip01 Ponytail12
Bip01 Ponytail13
Bip01 Ponytail1Nub
Bip01 Ponytail2
Bip01 Ponytail21
Bip01 Ponytail22
Bip01 Ponytail23
Bip01 Ponytail2Nub
#Sphere[2]={2.543064}
Dummy05
Head_ref
Bip01 L Clavicle
Bip01 L UpperArm
Bip01 L Forearm
Bip01 L Hand
Bip01 L Finger0
Bip01 L Finger01
Bip01 L Finger0Nub
Bip01 L Finger1
Bip01 L Finger11
Bip01 L Finger1Nub
Bip01 L Finger2
Bip01 L Finger21
Bip01 L Finger2Nub
Bip01 L Finger3
Bip01 L Finger31
Bip01 L Finger3Nub
Bip01 L Finger4
Bip01 L Finger41
Bip01 L Finger4Nub
HandL_ref
#Cylinder[4]={2.498000,15.088700}
#Cylinder[5]={2.748600,11.612076}
#Sphere[3]={2.573400}
Bip01 R Clavicle
Bip01 R UpperArm
Bip01 R Forearm
Bip01 R Hand
Bip01 R Finger0
Bip01 R Finger01
Bip01 R Finger0Nub
Bip01 R Finger1
Bip01 R Finger11
Bip01 R Finger1Nub
Bip01 R Finger2
Bip01 R Finger21
Bip01 R Finger2Nub
Bip01 R Finger3
Bip01 R Finger31
Bip01 R Finger3Nub
Bip01 R Finger4
Bip01 R Finger41
Bip01 R Finger4Nub
HandR_ref
#Cylinder[6]={2.498000,15.088700}
#Cylinder[7]={2.748600,11.612076}
#Sphere[4]={2.573400}
#Cylinder[8]={1.872475,22.057138}
Chest_ref
#Cylinder[9]={6.880463,22.799253}
Casting_ref
Human_Male_Base
#ClothBone
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SKA attributes

parent bone or Bip01 this is the parent bone that identifies child bones. This has the same bone contents of its .SKM counterpart.

animation this information renders model movements. Which consists of:

Sample Extension plus Animation

unarmed_unarmed_rturn
unarmed_unarmed_lturn
unarmed_unarmed_rattack
unarmed_unarmed_lattack
unarmed_unarmed_walk
unarmed_unarmed_run
unarmed_unarmed_idle
unarmed_unarmed_fhit
unarmed_unarmed_lhit
unarmed_unarmed_rhit
unarmed_unarmed_bhit
unarmed_unarmed_rcriticalswing
unarmed_unarmed_lcriticalswing
unarmed_unarmed_fidget
unarmed_unarmed_fidget2
unarmed_unarmed_fidget3
unarmed_unarmed_sneak
unarmed_unarmed_panic
unarmed_unarmed_rcombatstart
unarmed_unarmed_lcombatstart
unarmed_unarmed_combatidle
unarmed_unarmed_combatfidget
unarmed_unarmed_fdodge
unarmed_unarmed_rdodge
unarmed_unarmed_ldodge
unarmed_unarmed_bdodge
unarmed_unarmed_rthrow
unarmed_unarmed_lthrow

Extensions

_rturn
_lturn
_rattack
_lattack
_walk
_run
_idle
_fhit
_lhit
_rhit
_bhit
_rcriticalswing
_lcriticalswing
_fidget
_fidget2 // not 2Handed
_fidget3 // not 2Handed
_sneak
_panic
_rcombatstart
_lcombatstart
_combatidle
_combatfidget
_fdodge
_rdodge
_ldodge
_bdodge
_rthrow
_lthrow

Animations

No Weapon / Single Weapon / Two-Weapon

unarmed_unarmed_
unarmed_sword_
unarmed_shield_
dagger_unarmed_
dagger_dagger_
dagger_sword_
dagger_shield_
sword_unarmed_
sword_dagger_
sword_sword_
sword_shield_

2Handed

greatsword_greatsword_
spear_spear_
staff_staff_
polearm_polearm_
bow_bow_
crossbow_crossbow_
sling_sling_
2HFlail_2HFlail_

Chain(...?) of 2HFlail

chain_chain_combatidle
chain_chain_rthrow
chain_chain_lthrow

MISC

falldown
prone_idle
prone_fidget
getup
magichands
picklock
pick_concentrated
examine
throw
death
death_idle
death_fidget
death_prone_idle
death_prone_fidget
abjuration_casting
abjuration_conjuring
conjuration_casting
conjuration_conjuring
divination_casting
divination_conjuring
enchantment_casting
enchantment_conjuring
evocation_casting
evocation_conjuring
illusion_casting
illusion_conjuring
necromancy_casting
necromancy_conjuring
transmutation_casting
transmutation_conjuring
conceal
conceal_idle
unconceal
skill_animal_empathy
skill_disable_device
skill_heal
skill_heal_concentrated
skill_hide
skill_hide_idle
skill_hide_fidget
skill_unhide
skill_pickpocket
skill_search
skill_spot
feat_track
bullrush
flurry
kistrike
tumble
bard_sing
bard_flute
bard_drum
bard_mandolin
bard_horn
weaken_fall
weaken_getup
weaken_idle
skill_listen
wand_abjuration_casting
wand_abjuration_conjuring
wand_conjuration_casting
wand_conjuration_conjuring
wand_divination_casting
wand_divination_conjuring
wand_enchantment_casting
wand_enchantment_conjuring
wand_evocation_casting
wand_evocation_conjuring
wand_illusion_casting
wand_illusion_conjuring
wand_necromancy_casting
wand_necromancy_conjuring
wand_transmutation_casting
wand_transmutation_conjuring
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TXT attributes

EVENTS

reference1 NPC_Elmo.txt
reference2 NPC_Elmo.SKA

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

Block 2570 Address 257C,
unarmed_unarmed_rattack,
Block 25B0 Address 25BE,
01 00 0A 0B 02 00 01 00 00 00 15 00 FF FF 00 00 F0 41 00 00 00 00 3A 06 03

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rattack" "unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae"

Block 23110 Address 2311C,
0B action Bip01

Event 11 "action" "Bip01"

Convert this data to human language; .TXT file

animation "unarmed_unarmed_rattack" "unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{
event 11 "action" "Bip01"
}

EDIT So I need to update the .mae parameter to flurry.mae, but I already tried that and its not calling the animation properly due to lack of events. I need to trace the event tag address of unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae to add more events... Note this is on (.SKA file)

I'm taking two values, 257C and 25BE; START

236 x 684 = 161424

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
257C -> 9596 + 161424 = 171020
25BE -> 9662 + 161424 = 171086
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

Also taking 1 value from the END animation; 2660;

::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
2668 -> 9832 + 161424 = 171256
::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::

BLOCK 171256 Partial Address 30 55 C5 02 19; 12 is the END before 30.

So we will fill up the data from 171086 to 171256 that makes up 170 bytes...

I'll go to these addresses but I need to copy first the data on flurry.

I'll fetch the flurry start address and end address. 1FEAA and 1FF50

1FEAA -> 130730 + 161424 = 292154; but hey we don't have this kind of address so we'll stop here... Maybe Xvicious knows how to handle this number...
1FF50 -> 130896 + 161424 =

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
While I'm waiting for his reply let's compare first

0B 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E this meant "11 action"

2311C ; first location
23548
24D9E
268BC
2696E
276A4
27D98

I have found this 7 addresses pertaining to this event... let's compare it to the .txt file...

Okay I've found exactly 7 addresses on the .txt file which means it is in order!

The first event 11 is located at unarmed_unarmed_rattack! Which means the first event tag which has the value of 11 is the exact location...

First location is highlighted as white, 2311C;

Now we have found the location, well find next the event tags for flurry.mae...

They are event 9, 18, 28, 36...

09 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E this meant "9 action"

23FB6
27756
2D26C

I've found 3 occurences! The third one is the real address... Thx! .TXT file!!!!

Okay question? How do we put that inside those brackets? EH that I dont know... :anger:

Hmmpp... I've counted their spacings and there is 123 bytes between the events...

OK! I've made my desision I'll add those event tags! 9 18 28 36! But first let's convert them!

9 is 09
18 is 12
28 is 1C
36 is 24

So we will write ::::

09 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E [add here 42 -> 00's then] 42 69 70 30 31!
12 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E [add here 42 -> 00's then] 42 69 70 30 31!
1C 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E [add here 42 -> 00's then] 42 69 70 30 31!
24 00 61 63 74 69 6F 6E [add here 42 -> 00's then] 42 69 70 30 31!

then add a space of 123 bytes! UGGGHHHHH!

I double check the order of flurry.mae contents and it is in order! So now let's begin w/o any mistakes! This file is so sensiiiitiiivee!

Start @ 23110! But I don't know how to begin! :blegh: spaces are so confusingggg! And where the hell are the brackets! Change 0B to 09 ffor the first step!

Damn! I've manage to insert the twelfth one cleanly! onto the next!

Sorry it failed! :tears: Seems there is a missing link... which is... nowhere to be seen today! :blegh:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
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E0F

XVicious · Sep 16, 2013

OK yea,

"By the numbers" was not a constant formula for every thing.

this was the SKA header addressing values

00000: 5B 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 23 00 00 |[............#..
00016: AC 02 00 00 A4 23 00 00 00 00 FF FF 42 69 70 30 |.....#......Bip0

this is where I got the initial math

236 seemed to be the constaint block data size for the animation tag blocks.

so the bones start at 18h
the bones end at 23A4h

then in yellow it says there are
684 (02AC hex) animation tags
starting at 23A4h

so the theory of by the numbers was
684 * 236 + 23A4h = the end of the animation tagged blocks (offset)

this would only tell you where the events started

contents of "flurry" put into unarmed attack
inside the TXT script file
Code:
animation "unarmed_unarmed_rattack" "unarmed_unarmed_rattack.mae"
{

	event 9 "action" "Bip01"
	event 18 "action" "Bip01"
	event 28 "action" "Bip01"
	event 36 "action" "Bip01"
}

Zoltec · Sep 17, 2013

That can't be done. I'd already tried that, just nothing. In a matter of fact, If you read EVENTS above you'll know the whole journal of messing around in the .SKA file... From what I know, the script .TXT file you are calling is only a reference file of the .SKA file... So modders can understand what's the contents of it, like today...

Tracing event tags in .SKA file

unarmed_unarmed_rattack

Starts @ 18h bones; Ends @ A4 23h bones

Reverse 23 A4 -> 9124

Reverse 3A 02 -> 02 3A -> 570 animation tags

constant block data size : animation tag blocks is 236

(570) animation tags x (236) animation tag blocks = 134520

134520 + 9124 = 143644 -> 2311C ;Correct! It got the first action event;
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Locating animation tag

Second action event; Formula Reversal; We'd already know that the second event will be unarmed_unarmed_lattack; 2668

231CE <- 143822 = ? + 134520

143822 - 134520 = 9302

Let's search for 9302 if its correct. Hex 2456; this is wrong

Its 2668 hex or 9832 dec, with the help of the .TXT file.

231CE <- 143822 = 9832 + ?

So we know already that 236 is constant (XVicious Theory), and we'll find the remaining... animation tags.

143822 - 9832 = 133990

133990 / 236 = 568 animation tags.

Now let's confirm something;

236 x 567.75423728813559322033898305085 = 133990; hmmp... this is correct already... but hey its too long...

Convert 567.75423728813559322033898305085 to hex and we got 237. Reverse 237 -> 37 02, its on Block 557F8

Maybe(?) we should round it off... That's what I don't know in hex. Anyway, if we convert 237 again to dec, its output is 567.

37 02 is the animation tag for unarmed_unarmed_lattack located @ Block 557F8.
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How to confirm if the animation tag is correct

Don't know yet. :blegh:
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XVicious · Sep 17, 2013

The events look too be 178 bytes long

ska file:

heading
bones and weights
animation tag data blocks : 236 bytes / block
event tag data blocks: 178 bytes / block
unidentified data: size unknown

Zoltec · Sep 17, 2013

Hi XVicious, thanks for the info. How do I convert this one to hex 567.75423728813559322033898305085 do I need to round off this one? If I round off this one, the exact value won't return. Any ideas?

Anyway, is my calculation correct? I've got 37 02 for the animation tag, but I didn't round it off... so anyway... where do we use the event tag data blocks? NOTE: I'm using NPC_Elmo.SKA file.

XVicious · Sep 17, 2013

OK Z

Im converting elmo ska to hex so we are loooking at same file

let me annalyze this.

I update an answer here;

elmo ska header data

00000: 5B 00 00 00 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 A4 23 00 00 |[............#..
00016: 3A 02 00 00 A4 23 00 00 00 00 FF FF 42 69 70 30 |:....#......Bip0
00032: 31 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |1...............

023A h = 570 dec (animation tag names total)

23A4 h = 9124 dec (animation name/data blocks beginning offset)

animation data block end =
{
9124 + ( 236 * 570 )
}

events number/names/data begin offset = 143644 (dec)

So from looking at the events end @ offset 193662 (dec)

193662 - 143644 = 50018 (dec)

50018 / 178 (events data block size) = 281 (dec)

this says
there should be 281 events shown in elmo SKA

here is a preview of the data that comes after the events
Code:
193664: 00 38 10 A5 BA 3A 00 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F BA C3 |.8...:..........
193680: 08 C2 28 BE A3 43 53 F7 AD 60 00 00 01 00 FF 7F |..(..CS..`......
193696: FF 7F FF 7F CC FA 42 FD 60 5A 72 5A 67 08 64 FD |......B.`ZrZg.d.
193712: 93 A0 02 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 2A C0 2A C0 D7 BF |..........*.*...
193728: 29 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F |)@..............
193744: 07 00 00 00 0D 00 FF 7F 78 09 FD FF 0C 00 04 00 |........x.......
193760: FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 9E DB 90 86 D4 EF 24 07 88 F6 |............$...
193776: 06 00 2D 09 05 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 00 00 00 00 |..-.............
193792: DB C4 83 71 AD 33 00 00 00 00 06 00 FF 7F FF 7F |...q.3..........
193808: FF 7F 40 F8 1C F7 97 1B 6E 7C B2 2D 00 00 00 00 |..@.....n|.-....
193824: 07 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 00 00 00 00 F7 60 8D 53 |.............`.S
193840: 9C 0A FB 09 00 00 0D 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 5F EE |.............._.
193856: C8 82 47 0C 73 F0 88 F6 04 00 BA F6 0E 00 FF 7F |..G.s...........
193872: FF 7F FF 7F 00 00 00 00 9E CA 55 74 AD 33 00 00 |..........Ut.3..
193888: 00 00 0F 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F 2C 08 EE 0C 70 26 |..........,...p&
193904: 20 79 B2 2D 00 00 00 00 10 00 FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F | y.-............
193920: 00 00 00 00 4B 5B B7 59 9C 0A FB 09 00 00 16 00 |....K[.Y........
193936: FF 7F FF 7F FF 7F CB 03 7C 14 5C FA 2A 7E 49 0F |........|.\.*~I.
these could possibly be all real numbers or floats size 4bytes
????
when I look at the ascii characters for this data, there looks too be a constant pattern, indicating a data block structure

XVicious · Sep 17, 2013

Here is the SKB (raw bone/weights) data
I extracted from elmo

I still have not decripted this data
???

Im wondering if the bone ID's # is somehow tagging the
weights data here per vertex?

(shortend preview)

Code:

00000: 00 00 01 00 0D 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |................
00016: 00 00 80 3F 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 |...?............
00032: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 0D 00 00 00 |................
00048: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 80 3F 00 00 00 00 |...........?....
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Zoltec · Sep 18, 2013

All of your input makes sense to me now. But well, my brain won't dwelve far beyond decoding symbols (even though your not asking me to do that)... you can atleast input here, if you have any other new ideas about this. Sorry, to be impolite on this matter, since, I'm the one who spawned you, and thus I have an obligation to fulfill, I had to brainstorm far more than you. But you know humans too must take a break (not saying your not human). I know I'm gonna lose face on you in this matter but I'm prepared... :yeaaa:

Anyway, that's not the end of it, really! I'm gonna pursue this, in it's simplest way possible (in the future?). But well to achieve that one must have a keen understanding on this matter; But oh well I don't have the time right now and I'm not passing that obligation and not forcing it to you, feel free to update this thread if you feel like it, thanks XVicious for your golden time and please wreak havoc in the world of ToEE in the meantime. Enjoy!

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