Traders + Reactive Temple Mods

This is only meant to be played on the earlier version of 5.0.6. Go to the other thread - it is very detailed

 

Allright, I got that much, so can anyone post the old 5.0.6 or tell me where to find it? It seems like the older CMF versions have been removed...

Or is this included in the latest CMF??

 

^Yeah, I don't mind being on my own, I've played TOEE so many times now, shouldn't be too much of the problem, I can deal with minor bugs. This mod is also pretty much the only reason for me to do another replay atm, since I just finished a game yesterdat.

So, bottom line, could smb PLEASE send me the old 5.0.6 CMF?? Please??

 

Sitra, whenever you get this, while fooling around I killed Burne, Rufus, 10th level retired Pishella, and 2 badgers in his Tower. I teleported to Nulb, came back to Hommlet 8hrs later and both their bodies were gone - so was their stuff!!

And, oh yes, what would happen if someone completed DH and met Saduj at the same time your town council is meeting?

I hope all is well with you and I look forward to your return.

 

Perhaps the Traders and Reactive Temple mod should be bundled up with old 5.0.6 or 5.0.5 cmf and turned into a ToEEFE ready module. It shouldn't require too much support once it's stable. Then, it can continue to be modded without having to adhere to Co8 standards (replace gnomes with drow!). Or left as a (very good) monument to state of the art Co8 2008.

But don't let it slip away.

 

CMF 5.0.5 is on the Co8 FTP server:
http://files.co8.org/mods/Cumulative_Mods_5.0.5.rar

As mentioned, the mod posted here is compatible with 5.0.6, August 10th version. So you need to head on over to this thread:

http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?t=3561&page=6

And install all the individual updates up to Aug 10th in chronological order.

To be clear, the order of installation is:

1. CMF 5.0.5
2. The individual updates/fixes from that thread, up to and including August 10th
3. My mod

Also note, you need to be careful if you install this with the new front-end system. But then again, you already had to be careful when installing with the old front end anyway

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Regarding the Saduj thing, I'm pretty sure I've altered that script to prevent his gang from spawning when the council convenes.

As for the disappearing corpses/items, and other oddities - they'll have to wait till I get back to modding, whenever that happens (probably more than half a year...)

 

Thanks for detailed instructions in how to build the Trader-Temple Mod, Sitra. In the continuous updating, I had lost track of where everything was when that came out.

In general, if a fight triggers around npc's, joinable or otherwise, don't they pretty much all join the enemy? That would be a hell of a fight, especially in such tight quarters. It would kind of be like when I walked out into the moathouse courtyard and saw 8 x Big Three ambush waiting for me. (Big 24?)

I like the way you think Basil. :yikes:

 

So, I guess Pishella is not part of Burne's faction? Levelled up Pishella sure wasn't.

I hope that some day this mod can handle the Greater Temple. Too many monsters don't join the fray as I mentioned in Temple questions post #40.

I am still very curious about stealth in the game. Should it be so easy to sneak up next to monsters and assassinate? I read somewhere that there are alarm states but it seems that there are few opportunities to increase that state. Or maybe we need some monsters with some serious Spot and Listen modifiers to balance for elven cloak and boots, Dex Gloves, etc.... My group has 4 guys with between +15-20 modifier and they aren't even maxing their ranks. Giving some appropriate monsters +15 would not be out of line, me thinks.

 

The first edition module did not have spot and listen checks; therefore, I believe it might be good to interpolate what should be. Hopefully, Sitra or someone else with the skillz can take up the cause of tightening up the stealth issue.

How do the alert states of the temple forces work. What changes when an alarm is triggered? What other alarms are there besides Paida?

The bugbears are fighters, not rogues?? Rogue is their favored class. Fighter/Rogue is even better! Obviously, the first edition module says nothing about bugbear classes, since bugbears were just bugbears, ogres ogres, etc....

 

I don't know. I see a few of them evade Fireballs. If some of them (or more of them) could get some serious Spot and Listen AND evade, then typical stealth and/or slash and burn will become less effective. Then players will have to think more strategically.