Woohoo. Just got through it. Now when I do play it again I'll make sure all the patches are there first, and I might not get silenced, and next time I'll know what weapon proficiencies to go with with all those funky weapons out there I couldn't use to max benefit I did noticed the co8 and moebius fixes, take the level cap off automatically ? I guess thats kinda why I got through the last bit a little easy. I got bored with the fire node, so I just tried dismissal, only thing was I got no xp for the balor or the efreeti, scummy :spunimp: Oh wells. I thought the last battle with Zug was a little too easy I'll admit with only 5 pc's and losing 2 of them to -10 and one to the negatives wasn't that easy, just happened the deaths came through more a summoned hezrou appearing when zug was almost dead, mean cow she is Thanks for your help guys. I doubt I missed too many quests, I think everyone finished up at level 12, so they got one extra feat (two for fighters) and one more stat point, and level 6 spells, not that the level 6 spells end up being taken advantage of I had a wand of chain lightning which I found, so that got used before anything else