Weapon Questions

I rerolled and got him 17 charisma.

 

That doesn't make any sense though. Meleny is a little country bumpkin that's never been off the farm and never seen anybody other than her father and the rest of the people in Hommlet. Her standards should be set quite low. I mean, if you were a rich adventuring dude with the whole world at your fingertips and messing around with god's plans and whatnot, would you really be satisified with a homey country girl that is used to the feeling of manure between her toes? Two people who are going to try to share time together have to be closely equal in order for there to be any chance at all of the relationship surviving.

 

who's a rich adventuring dude at levels 1-3 in ToEE? I didn't get paid for any of that Fedexing.


:ninja: ninjad by Gaear

 

Even after the Eagle Splendor wears off your character is the only one for Meleny. After the first encounter she only sees you through imaginary eagle splendor glasses.

 

Maybe no refunds after a roll in the hay in her family's big barn.

Ah, that was @Arioch's mod-concept from long ago.

 

Actually Gaear, what would be real fun is the kind of demands Fruella could lay on the character. What you bring me emeralds again! Can't you find dragons that like diamonds and pearls? You are the leader of the group shouldn't you get a bigger share? You take her home for a visit with her father. Her father looks at you all haggard and says I use to feel your pain and gives you a big smile! He says Thank you! and walks away singing.

 

Or perhaps another thought would be that if you aren't giving her enough material possessions, not letting her get involved with combat, selling stuff to vendors and just generally being over-possessive, she should walk out on you and start working at the nulb brothel, where you meet her later, carrying on an affair with Jenelda while the divorce papers are going through the system. First, you drive her away and then not only that, but drive her to bat for the other team!

And then her father, a 15th level retired fighter with a belt of Storm Giant strength, a double bladed intelligent vorpal axe and other assorted magic items, comes and wipes you out for shaming the family and you are forevermore ostrasized by everyone in Hommlet over the scandal.

 

One could argue that the courtship stage of the relationship is where you need all of the charm and wining and dining. Once that is over your sorcerer,bard, etc. can let himself go a bit..

 

Hi Ranth

I haven't tried a straight fighter, but 16 Charisma (and selecting the right dialogue choices) should be all it takes. I just did two tests, one with a Rogue with 16 Charisma and 1 skill point in Diplomacy, and the second test using a Cleric with 16 Charisma and no skill points in Diplomacy. In both cases I was able to complete the "Flirting with Disaster" quest and get the Holy Longsword as a wedding gift (pity the cleric worships Pelor and doesn't know how to use it). I should point out that you must have a "face" person with decent Charisma to get anywhere with the FedEx quests. As a further test, I tried a Druid with 11 Charisma and the "2CP Diplomacy Booster" (aka "Black Dress") and got exactly nowhere with Meleny, her father, or the carpenter. I also noticed that the number of rumors you get from Fillikens Sister in Law depends on the Charisma of the character doing the asking. When my 16 Charisma Rogue asked her for rumors, I got 20+ rumors. When the Druid asked her (new game), I got exactly 3.
I just did another test, this time with a Fighter with 16 Charisma. I had no problem with talking to Meleny, but for some reason the Carpenters Rik and Marek didn't want to talk to my fighter when he first showed up. My fighter even "forgot" who Althea was (Filliken's daughter who is in love with Marek) even though he had just spoken with her 2 minutes earlier !! All I had to do to "fix" the problem, was step out the door and then step back in, and I was able to get the dialogue choices to complete the quests.
The Royal Canadian

 

I've found that 16 charisma is generally sufficient, no matter what the class.

 

Hi GA
I agree. I wasn't 100% sure when I saw the post about the 16 CHA fighter getting nowhere, so I decided to double check. Like I said in my earlier post, the problem I had with using a fighter was not Meleny, but the carpenters. I just realized the question I should have asked the person who reported the problem: Why waste a good stat on Charisma for a fighter ?? Unless the fighter has 16 or higher Strength, Dexterity, Constitution, Wisdom and Intelligence, putting a 16 in Charisma is a waste of a good stat.
TRC