Well, I rescued the girls and took one of them with me but the only conversation options when we get to the surface are something like she says "thanks for rescuing us" and we say something like: "that's OK, glad to help", "Would you like me to take you home" and "The party is full right now, see you later" The second two do nothing at all. The first option cause her to fade from sight, but her icon stays with the party and even if you kill her it won't disappear. We can't talk to her because she's invisible. And we never get to Verbobonc! Unless I'm doing something very stupid, this mod should be tagged as NON-FUNCTIONING, rather than BETA. Cheers ~
Sorry, does Beta mean Non-Functioning? I thought it meant working, but buggy, not quite alpha but not completely, utterly doing nothing at all. Other people seem to have got to Verbobonc. Why isn't it working for me? I even changed the number of PCs to 3, as that's all I have, so I could take them with me. I even reloaded before freeing them and killed Scorpp in case that made a difference. Was I supposed to rescue the Orcs first? ~ PS, in any case, an oxymoron combines two contradictory terms so if beta meant non-functioning, they would be the same and not oxymoronical as they aren't contradictory. I'm opposing the two terms in that even beta versions should have some basic funtionality and as this mod doesn't it doesn't deserve to be called beta, it should be called broken and not working. If I'd said "a non-functioning beta", that would be an oxymoron. Do you get gamma versions? Perhaps you meant it was a simile? Anyway, how do I get the girls to take me to Verbobonc. The search engine died when I tried it. But don't let me "indulge" upon your time. Cheers ~ ~.
I think what you're running into here might be user error. Have you tried opening up the map once you get to the surface, and clicking on the Verbobonc text on the location menu?
Its an oxymoron because you are asking if you are doing something stupid, but you've phrased the question in such a stupid way. Here's a hint - NOT because Verbomod is non-functioning. If it was non-functioning it wouldn't work for other people. Perhaps some less time disputing the exact terminology for your stupidity and some more time reading the Common Issues and Solutions thread. Or even using the search function. Here's a thread specifically explaining how to get there, found simply by typing in 'Verbobonc'.
But that's not an oxymoron either... OH! I see! You mean it's IRONIC! Well, not surprised that passed you by. You know, Ted, for a chief modder, a moderator and monitor, you really ought to try and be more helpful and less sarcastic and not make personal attacks on members. You should hang your head in shame. What's even more ironic is that you were trying to make a personal attack on what you perceive to be the level of my intelligence and I didn't even notice, thinkiing instead that you would be polite and helpful and were referring to the non-functioning/beta part of my post. There's a double-edged irony there! You computer geeks are extra-ordinarily clever when it comes to hacking hex files, but your command of the English language is sadly lacking. There was a guy here who kept saying "sans" something, trying to mean "including", and I had to explain several times that sans is simply French for "without", so he was saying the opposite of what he meant. Anyway, here's the Extra Irony for you, if there is such a Feat. I already told you your search engine fell over when I tried it. All the notes for the Verbomod say that you cannot get there on the world map. You must use conversation options and you have to take someone with you and the number of visits are limited. So that's what I did and she just went invisible. But when I got home I reloaded and tried again and you CAN get there via the world map and you CAN NOT get there simply via conversation choices. You see the irony? The Verbomod notes say the OPPOSITE of what they mean. You see, there is no destination added to the actual map drawing itself. But there IS a map destination NAMED Verbobonc that you just click on in order to travel. So what the notes should say is that you have to get Verbobonc added to the map but nothing will appear on the map drawing, but the destination will be on the list of maps. A simple question of English comprehension and clarity of expression. If the mod has been changed since those notes were written, maybe the notes should be changed. I found the mod very good, by the way. The only "bugs" are that the inn keeper attacked us on sight, even after dumping Scorpp, a guard attacked the party when Scorpp attacked us, instead of helping us against the evil giant, the Hextor priest conversation options aren't there, there are just number 1 and 2 and the assassin upstairs in the inn has a conversation response of "1" with no text and the game hangs - can't ESC, can't leave the conversation, can't reload, just have to use Task Manger to close the program. Shame that. ~
A simple thankyou would have sufficed. Verbomod has changed. Hence the use of phrases like 'beta', and the need to use the search engine. When I did - note the second link I gave you to solve your problem shows Verbobonc in red to indicate the search results, I actually did it - I found the answer very quickly. Since clicking links or looking in the 'Common Issues' sticky is too hard fo you, I will post the answers here, yet again: So despite your whining I gave you all the help you needed, which was available by the most obvious means, and which you were apparently too stupid to find for yourself using said obvious means. If I liberally seasoned it with contempt, its because I have very little time for people who can neither use a search engine nor read a 'Common Issues' thread specifically there to help them, but instead ask for help by claiming that we post broken, non-functioning, unplayable mods. Notice that, while you made a fool of yourself with your last post, I proved you twice the fool with half the words? Have a nice day, and thankyou for playing our mods.
OK, having just skimmed through this thread, I wanted to just point out that the Verbobonc mod has been altered a number of times, originally you could only get there via dialogue with the prisoners (and a select few others), then as improvements to player made mods had made alternative means of getting there possible, it was reworked to include worldmap support, we have been unable to hack the worldmap icons as yet, but still beleive this is all working as it should to the best of our communities ability. And since I'm in a more semi-retired state at the moment, I wouldn't count on any imporvements to the mod from me any time soon, though I think I read something about a Verbo-bug splatting project Gaear may have something to do with. And while I'm here, Shadowblade2, if my mods aren't good enough for you (and they are for many many other players who have played and enjoyed the Verbomod and the rest of Co8's content too for that matter) then either don't play them, or learn to mod yourself to do something about them.
@Shadowblade2 - Based on your violation above of rule #1 of the official forum rules, which reads: you have been temporarily banned for a period of ten (10) days, which possible outcome is warned against in this subsequent statement in the forum rules thread: Let's quickly review the facts of the matter: You instigated a hostile verbal exchange by posting derogatory comments about one of our mods in this thread. To be sure, expressing negative opinions about mods is not forbidden; however, posting them in an inflammatory manner and then crying foul when a member, or this case a moderator, responds in kind means the onus for starting the fracas falls squarely on you. Couching your replies in pseudo-intellectual hair-splitting does not exempt you from this reality. I'd like to take a moment to point out as well that the existence of the Cumulative Mods & Fixes patch, and the very nature of what it is, has already been pointed out to you. Please see: Moa's Orb Presumably you're playing it and have seen all the documentation, which includes two separate threads spanning some 41 pages, as well as separate instructions for how to install it properly and a linked download location on the main page of the forums (which you also had trouble finding). And yet you still don't understand what implications for change the CMF patch carries with it. I'm sorry, but we simply can't assume responsibility for your shortcomings of comprehension in this area. Now, onto the future. I suspect that when you're temporary ban has lifted, you'll be tempted to return to this topic and opine as to whether you think you've been horribly wronged, or whether it truly is the fault of Co8 that you can't get to Verbobonc, or even whether you think my use of the word 'onus' is appropriate. Do not do this. Why? Because I don't give a damn about any of it. If you want to participate as a member here by posting helpful and/or meaningful discussion, by all means do so. But what you won't do is instigate further arguments or show disrespect to any of the moderators. Mark my words: if you start in on this routine again, you will be banned permanently, and any posts you make of this nature will follow you into the abyss in short order. Please re-read that last line again, because it's very important to your future here. I hope you're able to get the sense that I'm not kidding about it. Do you think this position is epistemologically unsound? Tough shit. Do you think my use of the English language is flawed? I don't care. Do you think I've been unfairly harsh to you? Go cry to someone else. I suggest you take these truths to heart and join the rest of us in the real world. You'll have to leave university and enter it sooner or later anyway.
You can feel the love... I do some modding for other games (just a 3d and Art monkey) and get quite annoyed when guys start whining about particular scripts/install problems/other issues. It could not be that they have missed something, oh no. It's obviously the fault of the mod and they want an apology.. The time and effort (all unpaid) of the developers means nothing, and they as users are obviously not at fault. Keep heart lads, you're doing sterling work. Don't let 'em grind you down!
Shadowblade2's basic complaint is valid. It is difficult to find out about what needs to be done to enjoy ToEE and the ENORMOUS amount of work that has been done in the mods. This body of work is, on some level, ill-organized and hard to understand, especially if you are unfamiliar with it. This is because of the haphazard way the work is done by many people all over the world. Most highly-organized, well-orchestrated projects are done the same way: after the real work is done, the project is reorganized into a much more elegant and polished form. This will often take more time and effort than the original effort. And it is ENDLESS! A project is "finished" when you simply stop doing the work. I wish my finished projects were as good as this work in progress. It's simple. Do you want these guys to keep making new toys for the rest of us no-account, ignorant, mouth-breathing, ungrateful layabouts to enjoy, or do you want them to drop everything to take care of some f*****g candy-ass p***y? If it REALLY was important to you, YOU would do something about it.
Wow, what a douche. Let's start from the top. Ted, Allyx, Cerulean, Half Knight, Gaer etc - these people all have lives. They are working on this game out of love for the unrealized potential of the engine, and for the gaming experience of every random person with an internet connection. Wow, some bugs exist. Wow, some lines of text have some issues (The assassin in Verbo freezes the dialogue screen when you talk to him past the first few lines). Wow, some people are just ungrateful, self-entitled brats. I for one absolutely adore the work this fine modding community has done and for the amount of content, man hours and everything they've put into the game, the last thing on my mind is to whine and bitch about some minor errors in the game. This just blows my mind honestly.
I just want to say that I have no problems doing the full dialogue tree with the assassin in Verb. Also, Deth is 100% right -- the greatest part of Co8 is the fact that they give you all the tools and information you need to mod the game as you see fit. Don't like something? Change it. If you're motivated enough to bitch about it on the forums, you're probably motivated enough to do the work yourself.
