TOEE Ambush question

So I finally got a new computer and decided to install TOEE in it since I never actually finished it the first time (Too painfully slow after a while). I saw the flippin sweet patch that the wonderful modders here have put together and figured I should get it since it would fix a lot of bugs and just add more fun to the game in general. I've gotten back to the moathouse section and took care of Lareth and company. Afterwards I went back to town and sold my loot, and went to the backdoor cave entrance to the moathouse one more time to get the rest of the loot I may have missed when Zert, Turuko, and his cohort ambushed me with a bunch of gnolls and brigand archers. What's the deal with this? I had completely ignored these characters for the mostpart, and the dialogue between the two parties before we fight makes no sense whatsoever. I can't figure out whether they think I'm evil and part of the brigand party in the cave, or whether they are evil and want to eliminate me, or what's going on. Is this something new added to the mod? What triggers this event to happen outside the cave entrance? Either way, props for the plot twist if its new for the mod.. I just wish I knew why I was being ambushed before I stomp a mudhole in them.

 

It's from the Co8.

These are Evil NPCs. They're not happy about you messing about with the Moat House when they have plans for it, and so they're expressing their displeasure. I'm not sure what would happen if you had one or more in your party at this scene. Worth finding out.

 

Groovy.

It might be kind of interesting for Evil parties to meet Elmo, Ruffus, and a half dozen Hommlet Guards after cleaning out the moat house. Give them a chance to Bluff and Diplomacy their way out of it ("Of course we're not with the bandits, we just wanted to protect the fine folk of Hommlet"), otherwise the fight is on.

 

Does Kobort and co do anything else if they stay in the party? After all, I assume that they must have been working for the temple?

What NPC's have meaningful plotlines later on?

Its funny. I used to totally ignore the NPC's because I found them to be looting idiots, taking more than their 'share':bored:

But now its seems they have a lot more soul. If this continues getting better I will start with one character and make up the rest with NPC's....

 

I'd like to see some resolution which still ensures that NPCs get their 'fair' share but I guess I can roleplay that so it's nowhere near as much of an issue as it used to be when their 'fair' share was every darned thing.

Meaningful plotlines? Depends on your alignment and choices ingame really. Lareth?

As for Kobort, you'll have to try a different alignment and see whether or not you can learn what his real aims are. There are 9 different alignments and there's actually a fair amount of alignment specific information scattered about. Could use more but meh.

 

Is it triggered by killing or buy just defeating Lareth? I did not kill Lareth, but rather had him accompany me out the back of the moathouse and I still got the encounter. I know this because I remember commanding Lareth in his first battle there.

 

well you saying that makes a whole lot of sence - My CE party + Lareth was a little confused about the whole ambush. btw that new cleric seems to be the only NPC in the whole game that actually knows that lareth is in your party (except for lareths cronies at the tower of course). I figured most people only know him by reputation not sight, but he's still damn paranoid.

 

Hmm. I thought we agreed upon Lareth just being dealt with. It's an easy change though. Should he definitely be dead, or just dealt with and not in the party? It is easy enough to think how Turuko and Co might assume Lareth is dead with the party coming out of the back door of the Moathouse. You decide, and I will make the change.

 

do you get ambushed when playing a LE party, it would be strange if you got attacked by the guy that sent you there.