The Jewelrer?

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  1. emo_ome

    emo_ome Butcher Of Hommlet

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    Hello...

    Hmmm... well... I have a Lawful Good party that has a Paladin party leader..
    and then i go to the Jewelry Shop in Hommlet, then decided to trade with my Gems...etc...
    well i try my Rouge to use the "Sleight of Hand" skill on the store owner(mira/nira??)...
    and then he spotted my Rouge and starts the combat... then i killed them all(including the guards)...

    well i notice that my Paladin didn't became fallen(†)....:blink:
    does the place doesn't have the "Paladin becoming Fallen" script???...
    or is it really OK to massacre those guys?:twisted:
     
  2. Basil the Timid

    Basil the Timid Dont Mention the War

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    Paladins falling is based on reputations, I believe. @ted had a whole thing on RPG Rant about this. iirc, you would need to kill another innocent in town before getting the Butcher of Hommlet Rep, assuming that Nira and his guards are the same faction as the Hommletians - I am guessing NOT!
     
  3. realmzmaster

    realmzmaster Established Member

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    The reason I think the paladin did not fall is because either it is not related to a quest or your party did not start the combat. A test would be to walk up to Nira with your paladin and kill him. It could also be like Basil the Timid said you have to kill more than one person in Hommlet. Also Nira is recently from Nulb. The Hommlet people may not have warmed up to him yet.
    Certain quests will most definitely make your paladin fall.
     
  4. Avatar_do_Grafite

    Avatar_do_Grafite Established Member

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    As ya dont start the fight, this should make diference, too.
    I'm not sure if ANY "inocent" the paladin kills make him to fall. And, furthermore, trades are not exactly "innocent people"....
     
  5. wizgeorge

    wizgeorge Prophet of Wizardy

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    The rogue got you in trouble and you killed a very valuable merchant. I'd think about replaying that one.
     
  6. realmzmaster

    realmzmaster Established Member

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    emo_ome,

    Why is rogue in a lawful good party trying to pickpocket a honest trader? Just to see if you could do it?:no:
     
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  7. emo_ome

    emo_ome Butcher Of Hommlet

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    well i just try...
     
  8. realmzmaster

    realmzmaster Established Member

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    But, he is a jeweler. Did you not think that his spot skill might be on the high side?
     
  9. erkper

    erkper Bugbear Monk Supporter

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    He's also (in p&p) a retired master thief. He should have a very good spot.
     
  10. emo_ome

    emo_ome Butcher Of Hommlet

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    hmmm... quite yeah and quite no...
    but anyways i got his Longsword +1 for my Paladin...:doh:
    and also a key... to his chest...
     
  11. emo_ome

    emo_ome Butcher Of Hommlet

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    hmm... now i wonder if that is the reason he keep his secrets...(when i ask him where city he's from...? [something like that...])
     
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