I download the ToEE World Builder and have been playing around with it a little bit. So far, the only thing I understand is the Proto editor portion. Looking around, monster stats, particularly their CRs are pretty wacky. Giant class creatures, as a whole, have CRs 1 lower than listed in the 3.5 Monster Manual. (Scorrp, as I mentioned elsewhere, is even wierder, with no CR rating, meaning only his 2 fighter levels count towards the XP award of beating him. Wuh?) Gnolls have a 2 more points of AC. Stuff like that. So far, though, Salamanders take the cake. What we seem to have in the protos is something that's somewhere between a regular Salamander (CR 6) and a Noble Salamander (CR 10) that weighs in with a CR of 5, according to the protos. 10d8 hit dice (1 more than a normal Salamander), 10' reach (like a Noble), 20 Strength (2 less than Noble, 6 higher than regular) 18 Con (2 higher than a Noble and 4 more than a regular), the mental stats of a regular, DR 10/Magic (as per regular) and the ability to cast Fireball (as per Nobles). I have no idea what Troika was trying to do here, all I know is the CR rating for the creature as it stands is way too low. I'd say give them a CR of 7, at least. That doesn't even go into the other stats, like to hit and whatnot, because I'm not sure what the game does and does not calculate on the fly, based on the creature's ability scores, and what it reads as listed from the protos. If it adds the strength bonus onto the already high +12 (+11 after all bonuses for regular, +18 for noble) to hit and Dex bonus onto the really high AC of 22 (18 normally for both noble and regular) then these things mean serious business. So here's my question: does anyone care? It was mentioned in the Co8 4.0 thread that some CRs were intentionally changed for whatever reason. If I were to go through and "fix" the monsters listed in the protos (CR, Ability scores, AC, saving throws, feats, etc.) would it be worth it, beyond my own satisfaction? (And frustration of having to do it all over again the next time a Co8 patch is released. ) Or is someone already working on this and I'd be stepping on their toes?