Rules Lawyer Needed!

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  1. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    You lucky duckys, you... time for one of the community to give something back :joy:

    BenWH has mentioned a bug whereby Summonses do nothing: I suspect it is summonses that double as animal companions (eg wolves). So...

    I need someone to list all the animal companions, and all the summonses, so I can compare :)

    The first to do so gets a gravestone of their preference in the graveyard. (Ie they get to say what it says.)
     
  2. chano

    chano Established Member

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    i summoned a black bear with my druid and it was inactive eventhough the caster was Close.
    i usually do not have that problem in toee so i might be a kotb bug.
     
  3. Pygmy

    Pygmy Established Member Supporter

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    Summon Nature's Ally Table

    When you use a summoning spell to summon an air, chaotic, earth, evil, fire, good, lawful, or water creature, it is a spell of that type.
    1st Level

    Dire rat
    Eagle (animal)
    Monkey (animal)
    Octopus1 (animal)
    Owl (animal)
    Porpoise1 (animal)
    Snake, Small viper (animal)
    Wolf (animal)

    2nd Level

    Bear, black (animal)
    Crocodile (animal)
    Dire badger
    Dire bat
    Elemental, Small (any)
    Hippogriff
    Shark, Medium1 (animal)
    Snake, Medium viper (animal)
    Squid1 (animal)
    Wolverine (animal)

    3rd Level

    Ape (animal)
    Dire weasel
    Dire wolf
    Eagle (giant) [NG]
    Lion
    Owl (giant) [NG]
    Satyr [CN; without pipes]
    Shark, Large1 (animal)
    Snake, constrictor (animal)
    Snake, Large viper (animal)
    Thoqqua

    4th Level

    Arrowhawk, juvenile
    Bear, brown (animal)
    Crocodile giant (animal)
    Deinonychus (dinosaur)
    Dire ape
    Dire boar
    Dire wolverine
    Elemental, Medium (any)
    Salamander, flamebrother [NE]
    Sea cat1
    Shark, Huge1 (animal)
    Snake, Huge viper (animal)
    Tiger (animal)
    Tojanida, juvenile1
    Unicorn [CG]
    Xorn, minor

    5th Level

    Arrowhawk, adult
    Bear, polar (animal)
    Dire lion
    Elasmosaurus1(dinosaur)
    Elemental, Large (any)
    Griffon
    Janni (genie)
    Rhinoceros (animal)
    Satyr [CN; with pipes]
    Snake, constrictor (giant) (animal)
    Nixie (sprite)
    Tojanida, adult1
    Whale, orca1 (animal)

    6th Level

    Dire bear
    Elemental, Huge (any)
    Elephant (animal)
    Girallon
    Megaraptor (dinosaur)
    Octopus1 (giant) (animal)
    Pixie* (sprite) [NG; no special arrows]
    Salamander, average [NE]
    Whale, baleen1
    Xorn, average

    *Can’t cast irresistible dance

    7th Level

    Arrowhawk, elder
    Dire tiger
    Elemental, greater (any)
    Djinni (genie) [NG]
    Invisible stalker
    Pixie* (sprite) [NG; with sleep arrows]
    Squid1 (giant) (animal)
    Triceratops (dinosaur)
    Tyrannosaurus (dinosaur)
    Whale, cachalot1 (animal)
    Xorn, elder

    *Can’t cast irresistible dance

    8th Level

    Dire shark1
    Roc
    Salamander, noble [NE]
    Tojanida, elder

    9th Level

    Elemental, elder
    Grig [NG; with fiddle] (sprite)
    Pixie* (sprite) [NG; with sleep and memory loss arrows]
    Unicorn, celestial] charger

    *Can cast irresistible dance

    May be summoned only into an aquatic or watery environment.

    Animal Companion (Ex): A druid may begin play with an animal companion selected from the following list: badger, camel, dire rat, dog, riding dog, eagle, hawk, horse (light or heavy), owl, pony, snake (Small or Medium viper), or wolf. If the DM's campaign takes place wholly or partly in an aquatic environment, the DM may add the following creatures to the druid's list of options: crocodile, porpoise, Medium shark, and squid. This animal is a loyal companion that accompanies the druid on her adventures as appropriate for its kind.

    ALTERNATIVE ANIMAL COMPANIONS

    As explained in the text on page 35, a druid of sufficiently high level can select her animal companion from one of the following lists, applying the indicated adjustment to the druid's level (in parentheses) for purposes of determining the companion's characteristics and special abilities.
    4th Level or Higher (Level —3)
    Ape (animal) Dire weasel
    Bear, black (animal) Leopard (animal)
    Bison (animal) Lizard, monitor (animal)
    Boar (animal) Shark, Large 1 (animal)
    Cheetah (animal) Snake, constrictor (animal)
    Crocodile (animal) 1 Snake, Large viper (animal)
    Dire badger Wolverine (animal)
    Dire bat
    7th Level or Higher (Level —6)
    Bear, brown (animal) Dire wolverine
    Crocodile, giant (animal) Elasmosaurus 1 (dinosaur)
    Deinonychus (dinosaur) Lion (animal)
    Dire ape Rhinoceros (animal)
    Dire boar Snake, Huge viper (animal)
    Dire wolf Tiger (animal)
    10th Level or Higher (Level —9)
    Bear, polar (animal) Shark, Huge 1 (animal)
    Dire lion Snake, giant constrictor (animal)
    Megaraptor (dinosaur) Whale, orca 1 (animal)
    13th Level or Higher (Level —12)
    Dire bear Elephant (animal)
    Octopus, giant 1 (animal)
    16th Level or Higher (Level —15)
    Dire shark 1 Triceratops (dinosaur)
    Dire tiger Tyrannosaurus (dinosaur)
    Squid, giant 1 (animal))

    1 Available only in an aquatic environment.

    Thank you to http://dndtools.eu/classes/druid/ and http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Summon_Nature's_Ally_Table the sources of this material
     
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  4. chano

    chano Established Member

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    ah so you wanted the whole list and not our own experiences
     
  5. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    'Fraid so, Chano. Pygmy FTW! Thank's dude.
     
  6. General Ghoul

    General Ghoul Established Member

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    So all of those are available in the game?
     
  7. Pygmy

    Pygmy Established Member Supporter

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    No rightly or wrongly I interpreted "Rules" as meaning pnp D&D 3.5 based on my opinion that ToEE has limitations and exploitable idiosyncracies rather than rules
     
  8. gazra_1971

    gazra_1971 Knights of Legend

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    The following information are from a level 20 druid and a level 20 ranger (they have identical lists) in the KotB module:

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    gazra_1971 Knights of Legend

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    The following information are from a level 20 wizard and a level 20 cleric (they have identical lists) in the KotB module:

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