Racial Items Possible?

Am I correct in thinking there is currently no known way to limit items to use by a specific race? I know you can limit the crafting of them by race.

My thought is to create some gnome specific gear with the flavor of gadgetry to make more appealing what is probably the least used of the races. I know I can make it only craftable by gnomes, but was hoping to make it only usable by them as well.

The second thing was that I was hoping to make some dwarf-only armor, which allows them to tumble in heavier armor. By PnP, dwarves can tumble in medium and heavy armor, since it does not reduce their movement speed, but in ToEE, no one can tumble in either. I'm planning on creating some things like "Dwarven Breastplate", "Dwarven Scale Mail", etc. I probably won't bother with the heavy armor, since in practice, heavy armor's armor check penalties don't make Tumbling attractive anyway. Anyway, creating the armors is easy enough, I just make the "Dwarven Breastplate" into light armor. However, it would be a cheat for anyone but a dwarf to use it. Worst case scenario, I will create it but not place it in game, then people who want to console it for their Dwarf's legitimate use can do so.

 

The dwarf thing should be fixable in TemplePlus - the relevant AoO checks are made at 0x1008AA90 (specifically the armor at 0x1008AB45). I'll put it on the list

The gnome thing probably is too, but since it seems very specific it's probably better left to scripting - I'm thinking something similar to what Ted did with the eyeglasses, except without destroying the item. E.g. spawn a dummy creature to item_get the item and then item_get it back to the original character.

 

I think this can be done the same way that ranged weapons are improved for characters with Far Shot, via the san_insert_item function (see py00282Ranged_Ammo.py). So when the item is inserted into a pc, you check if they are a dwarf (with pc.stat_base_get (stat_race), dwarf would be 1), and then change the the armor to ARMOR_LIGHT which would allow them to tumble, and upon inserting into a non-dwarf it would change back to ARMOR_HEAVY. The change would be done with a call to obj_set_int() with the appropriate flag, which I am trying to find.

So far I can change these:

obj_f_armor_armor_check_penalty
obj_f_armor_arcane_spell_failure
obj_f_armor_max_dex_bonus
obj_f_armor_ac_adj ​

I'll let you know if the type itself can be changed.


Edit: The appropriate flag, as noted by Sitra below, is:

obj_f_armor_flags​

Set to 0 for Light Armor, 1 for Medium Armor, 2 for Heavy Armor, and 3 for Shields. Note that some other flags may be set in there at times also (though they usually aren't), so be careful hen just checking the straight value.

 

Is moving Kukri out of the Exotic Weapon category into Martial an easy one?

 

Heh, that could work too, but I think it's better left for TemplePlus since it's possible to fix all armors that way without giving them all special scripts. Also for the record the armor type is stored in obj_f_armor_flags, in the first 2 bits (0 = ARMOR_TYPE_LIGHT, 1 = MEDIUM, 2 = HEAVY, 3 = SHIELD).

Re. Kukri - not sure,

the feat properties table is at 0x102BFD78 (or 0x2BFD78 in the DLL). There seems to be a commonality between exotic weapon prof. feats (they're all marked 31xh), and the martial weapons similarly have 9xxh in common, so maybe changing the Kukri entry (index 30, starting from 0) from 310h to 900h will make it included in the martials.
Should it be martial, btw? Or is this in the context of racial weapons? If so there's a separate table for that (should be easy to add).

 

Oh no, it has nothing to do with racial, it's just one of those 3.0/3.5 transition bugs. The Kukri is martial in 3.5, but was exotic in 3.0, and they never fixed it when they updated to 3.5.

 

Yes, Kukri is a martial weapon in 3.5: http://www.d20srd.org/srd/equipment/weapons.htm

 

So, I get that templeplus is cool; I like it. The thing that is holding me back from jumping into it right now is that I don't really understand if there is a plan to incorporate it into the Co8 modpack at some point. I don't want to spend time working on something that will not been seen by the main userbase of the Co8 modpack.

So, what is the plan for that, exactly?

 

The best stuff happens that way

I can generally say that we want to first work out the kinks (including the sins of our fathers the early DLL modders), deploy a public beta, and integrate with TFE-X. After that and assuming all goes well I see no reason why not to include it in the official mod.

 

Happened upon the functions that made Kukri considered to be exotic, and patched it:

https://github.com/CircleOf8/TemplePlus/issues/37

 

What sorcery is this...

 

I think Sitra was talking about the absurd Dex bonus (+15) which requires a Dex of 40-41!