Pathfinder: Kingmaker (PC)

I have the roll window open, it does mention Initiative, whether it actually makes a difference in combat, I doubt it. There doesn't seem to be an auto-pause on turn end option, or I may have just not found it yet. Sleep is a 1 round casting time.

Unfortunately Turn Based D&D is still by far less popular than RTwP - I hate that system too, but dev's will follow the money at the expence of rules compliance.

The music is ok IMO, I don't think the HUD is too bad, the loading times between maps takes too long though.

I like the idea that the quest is documented in a journal, you can remove the default bard from the party fairly soon after the start of the adventure though.

My final thoughts: It's a pretty game, rules implementation is good, mostly - Encumberance seems to be calculated as a whole group rather than per individual character. It would have been better as a pure turn based game rather than RTwP IMO, but they will understandably go with the bigger chunk of the market.

7/10

 

Sleep is a full round casting time in ToEE too, you can cast it in a round, but you only get a 5' step to move with if you do.

 

1 full round action is 6 seconds long, 1 turn is 6 seconds long, both allow a 5' step as well if no other movement occurred in that turn, but a full round spell occurs on the round it was cast, a 1 turn casting time spell occurs on the following turn.

Casting Sleep takes a full round action, in ToEE this leaves you a 5' step and the spell takes effect. In Kingmaker the spell occurs at the end of the 6th second of casting.

Casting Summon Monster/Nature's Ally 1 also takes a full round action, you spend the whole turn casting and the summoned creature appears at the start of your next turn. In ToEE summons appear on the round you cast it and can act immediately (RAW it shouldn't appear until the following round). In Kingmaker it appears on the 6th second of casting.

Spells that take multiple rounds to cast allow no other actions to be taken until the spell is complete I'm unsure if a 5' step is allowed at the start or end of the casting, or not allowed at all.

 

For summons spells? I'm not sure. The engine has a weird way of implementing some things. The summon spells should put the summoned creature just ahead of the caster that created it in the initiative order to be RAW. I can't remember if it does or not.

 

Sleep is RAW in ToEE.

Summon Monster isn't, as the summoned monster can act immediately after the summoner in ToEE. It shouldn't appear until just before the caster's next action. We might be able to add the stunned condition to the summoned creature to delay it's action until the next round, but that opens up rhe posibility that it can die before it can act.

 

To clarify, I looked it over again, and ToEE's implementation of full round casting time spells is wrong, the spell effects are meant to trigger immediately before that caster's next turn, not on that same turn.

Furthermore, if the caster receives damage between the start of casting and completing the casting, they also need to make a concentration check or lose the spell.