Paladins in KoTB

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  1. OLLY613

    OLLY613 Established Member

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    Good morning /evening all (where ever you may be ).

    I was able to convince my wife to pick my next party and she picked

    Halfling Beguiler
    Half Orc Paladin
    Dwarf Ranger
    Human Druid
    Elf Monk

    So this will be interesting. I ended up rolling for Stats to try to get a bit higher if possible without using the "trick"

    All that being said I played through part way through KoTB only once and only for a bit. There is a quest line that requires me to steal something from the keep mage if I recall. Will that cause my paladin to fall? I am playing neutral good and will make sure to keep my decisions good but I don't want to go through the trouble and have my paladin fall if I can help it.

    Any advice would be good here.

    Also she picked my weapons and wants my dwarf ranger to use slings. Can this work with all the ranged feats as normal? Rapid shot, etc
     
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  2. Endarire

    Endarire Ronald Rynnwrathi

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    Slings are ranged weapons. Unlike tabletop, they automatically reload. They're the best ranged weapon in the game for those with high STR.
     
  3. OLLY613

    OLLY613 Established Member

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    Thanks! I haven't tried slings yet in the game but I figure it's good against skeletons due to the bludgeon damage anyways.

    She did pretty good picking my team surprisingly!
     
  4. sigofmugmort

    sigofmugmort Established Member Supporter

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    you can also use a shield while wielding a sling
     
  5. OLLY613

    OLLY613 Established Member

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    What? Like a buckler or a full on shield? That's insanely cool.

    Attack of opportunities when shooting in melee?
     
  6. Endarire

    Endarire Ronald Rynnwrathi

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    Don't use ranged weapons in melee. 5' step away first.
     
  7. OLLY613

    OLLY613 Established Member

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    Ok that makes sense. I was just surprised with the shield usage I didn't know if slings were way different
     
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    zertzax Established Member

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    You can use any type of shield, up to and including tower shields. :D
     
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    OLLY613 Established Member

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    I tried it in game last night but was unable to equip. Now I'm using a dwarf so maybe size restriction but I'm using a masterwork sling and I couldn't equip a shield.

    Bug maybe?
     
  10. sigofmugmort

    sigofmugmort Established Member Supporter

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    Can you equip it without the sling? If, not then you need the tower shield proficiency.
     
  11. Buffed Rabbit

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    To my knowledge, in ToEE/KotB with Co8/Temple+ installed, you can only equip a buckler when carrying a sling.
     
  12. Shiningted

    Shiningted The Thunder of Justice Administrator

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    Yeah I seem to remember us discussing the (absurdity) of not being able use shields with slings before.

    Good question re the Paladin falling! I'm not sure - probably have to just do it and see. On the plus side, (if you have played that questline through before you may know this) you have the option of turning the quest-giver in, if you want, after you have done his quests (since they involve dubious actions), so a Paladin might try a bit of mental reservation and do that, or at least you can still do that line of quests while RPing your Paladin.
     
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  13. Keolander2ElectricBugalu

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    I'm guessing this changed because I can't equip my full size shield with my sling-carrying Druidess. Spears should also be 1-handed as well (Hey, remember we used to have the Spear of Keoland back in the day?)
     
  14. dolio

    dolio Established Member Supporter

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    The 3rd edition rules say you can shoot a sling with one hand, but not load it. The vanilla game doesn't even keep track of loading for slings, but it's essentially restricting you in the same way by making it require two hands to use. Crossbows are the same way. You can shoot them with one hand (at a penalty), but they require two hands to reload, and so ToEE just makes them two handed.

    If everything were implemented by the book, you could hold a shield and shoot a(n already loaded) sling once, but then you'd just have to drop it, or take off your shield to reload.

    I think short spears are one handed and long spears are two handed.
     
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