Otis re-joining the party. It's not happening!

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  1. pblack476

    pblack476 Established Member

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    I did the following in this game:

    Rushed to Nulb to get Otis ASAP. Came back and had him smashing eveything up to the house ambush. Went on to the temple and had to go back to buy some scrolls of knock because I'm not using any rogues.

    When I get to Nulb, Otis leaves. Fine.

    I go back to the temple and speak to Romag. I get his quest and run back to get Otis again. But he still says that he cannot help me.

    Our party is True Neutral. Is that the reason?

    If so, this is a challenging but welcome surprise. Except for the fact that Otis took my purple elven chain...
     
  2. Gehennis

    Gehennis Established Member

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    I think it's that once your characters reach a certain level or higher Otis won't join- level 6 I think?
     
  3. pblack476

    pblack476 Established Member

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    I know mother screng doesn't join after that level, but I never heard of Otis doing that. Can anyone confirm?
     
  4. Gehennis

    Gehennis Established Member

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    Click on the TOEE game Guide and Walkthrough located at the top of this page and look for the character description for Otis- it explains the circumstances under which Otis leaves your party permanently- lots of useful stuff in there...;)
     
  5. pblack476

    pblack476 Established Member

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    I've read it. And it only states that Otis will rejoin once you speak to him about temple factions after speaking to a cleric of the temple. Witch I did and he did not gave me a dialog option to join again.

    The guide also mentions that to discover about screng you have to be good aligned, but it does not say explicitly that Otis will only rejoin good aligned parties.

    Nothing else in the guide mentions Otis's rejoining.
     
  6. Gehennis

    Gehennis Established Member

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    So are you saying that this is the second time you've been to Nulb with Otis in your party, and as such you should be getting the dialogue option for him to rejoin you? I'm thinking you may have returned to Nulb after talking about the temple factions, which would be why he's gone permanently...
     
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    I never spoke to him about temple factions, ever.

    The first time in the temple ,I cleared the broken tower without entering the temple. Then, I went back to Nulb and he left. Then I went to the temple without him and spoke to romag. When I got back to nulb, he did not offer me a dialog option about temple factions.
     
  8. Gehennis

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    I see then- in that case something does sound amiss. Are you playing the 8.1 version and if so, have you mentioned this in the 8.1 bug thread?
     
  9. Sitra Achara

    Sitra Achara Senior Member

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    You need a good aligned party to get him to join again.

    Code:
    {120}{How's the adventuring going, @pcname@?}{How's the adventuring going, @pcname@?}{}{120}{}{}
    [B]{121}{I have discovered evil factions active within the Temple. I could really use some help!}{}{8}{((game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_GOOD)) and (game.story_state >= 5)}{820}{}[/B]
    {122}{The Temple is a tough place. I could use some help.}{}{8}{((game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_GOOD)) and (game.story_state == 4)}{140}{}
    {123}{I'm having a hard time of it. I could use your muscle again.}{}{8}{(game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_EVIL) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_EVIL) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_EVIL)}{150}{}
    {124}{Me find bad guy clerics in Temple! Me need help!}{}{-7}{((game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_GOOD)) and (game.story_state >= 5)}{820}{}
    {125}{Not well. You help?}{}{-7}{((game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_GOOD) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_GOOD)) and (game.story_state == 4)}{140}{}
    {126}{Not so good. Big man join up some more?}{}{-7}{(game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_EVIL) or (game.party_alignment == NEUTRAL_EVIL) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_EVIL)}{150}{}
    {127}{It's difficult. Any chance of getting you to join up again?}{}{8}{(game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_NEUTRAL) or (game.party_alignment == TRUE_NEUTRAL) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_NEUTRAL)}{830}{}
    {128}{Not good. You help some more?}{}{-7}{(game.party_alignment == LAWFUL_NEUTRAL) or (game.party_alignment == TRUE_NEUTRAL) or (game.party_alignment == CHAOTIC_NEUTRAL)}{830}{}
     
  10. pblack476

    pblack476 Established Member

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    Aha! OK then. Didn't mess my gae in any way. Thanks!
     
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