I'm working on learning to mod using ToeJam's tutorial on the atari boards and I've run into a problem. When I start my game after making the changes in part three of his tutorial (duplicate vrock entry in protos.tab w/ some modification, edited toeepc file to change character to Vrock) and starting my game, it loads fine, with the vrok portrait and model, but as soon as I aknowledge the tip of the day, it plays the death scene. I've double checked and as far as I can tell I haven't done anything different from the tutorial. Of course, it's late and I'm tired so..but at any rate..any suggestions for where to look to find the problem would be apreciated, and I apologize is this isn't the apropriate place for this question..thanks. -l. underfoot Edit: I was editing the wrong protos.tab, once I edited the correct one, everything worked fine.