This isn't meant to pressure Al, but he tells me Verbo-mod WILL be finished for the next release. Combined with the other material (including my Moathouse respawn, which features a genuine Screeg map and our first addition of modded SVBs etc in an official Co8 release, afaik) this will easily be the largest amount of new content found in a Co8 release. With Kalshane's proto overhaul, it will also (I believe) be the largest single rules-implementation release ever done. It also includes modding of every other aspect of the game - sounds, graphics, dialogues, scripts, new items, new NPCs, heaps of new spells, etc etc etc - except the .dll. This is certainly not to disparage the work of previous modders, who still tower over us for .dll hacks, bug fixes and simply finding out how to do things. However, we have come a looooooong way since 4.0 (or even 4.0.1). Therefore, I propose that the next release be called Co8 5.0.0 beta (it will be a beta due to the need to test certain elements in-game, due to the massive scope of the changes). This has been discussed privately among a few of the modders (with opinions both for and against) so speak freely. Yay or nay?
If the Verbo-mod is going to be in, it should definitely be called 5.0.0. If it doesn't go in, then: IMHO, in fact, all the other material that goes in is actually enough to make it at least 4.5.0 easily! It should definitely be called something other than 4.1.0, because ".1.0" implies a rather minor change. I'd say 4.5.0 or 5.0.0 beta. Since 5.0.0 sounds better, I guess it should be 5.0.0 (remember, the versioning is like this: major-minor-revision-build, so 5.0.0.0 would be the fifth major build, 4.0.0.1 would be a rebuild/repackage, 4.0.1.0 would be a revision of the existing material, 4.1.0.0 would be a minor release, 5.0.0.0 would actually be a major release). Since we only use three numbers (and I think that's OK), we should stick with 5.0.0. - Agetian
I vote for calling it "Egyptian Whore", in honor of Ted, and in sticking with that theme, I am writing the docs in hieroglyphs.
I guess I should say a few words, afterall the culmination of my (just under) 10 month long project seems to be the the major sticking point here. I have 3 short dialogues to write (which i'm doing today) before I can say i've finished it, so it should be done by the end of today. I like the 5.0.0 version name, this is after all a much bigger mod pack than 4.0.0, I'd like to think the higher version number of the two (5.0.0), reflects the fruits of my (and my co-conspirators) efforts and that this version 5.x.x build will continue to surprise long time gamers, and engage new ToEE gamers for years to come, and become the basis for future ToEE modding.
Agetian here, from Sapricon's office. @ Allyx: Yeah, a great point. And great thing you are so close to finishing the Verbo-Mod! If it's that close to the release, I'd suggest extending the time for submitting (up to 24hrs extra) for Allyx in case he's not ready by the end of May, 2nd. And yeah, as far as versioning goes - I once again vote that it should be 5.0.0 and not 4.x.x since it is a quantum leap from the previous build in both technology (more MOBs, SVBs, and so on), quality, and quantity. - Agetian, from Sapricon's office (yeah, I don't want to use my login credentials when I'm not home)
"Five-O" I like the sound of that. But, no one can dispute the fact that "Egyptian Whore" has a nice ring to it as well. Will this bring Al-Qaeda down on us, I wonder?
<sniff> Blue, I never knew you had such strong feelings... I'm touched, seriously... Co8 Egyptian Whore - the Earth Temple Pyramid like you've NEVER seen it!
lol EW gets my first vote! ! my interest just peaked! dare one of us actualy moding this in however on a more serious notenote Co8 5.0 is just fine
Co8 MOD 5.0.0 should be fine. But, it should still have a name, too, in addition to the Co8 MOD 5.0.0 title...just like Windows HAL version 5.1.2600.xxxx is called Windows XP. I personally don't think that Whore is any kind of good name to associate with Co8, although - something like Annihilate as in Co8 Annihilate in reference to Co8 MOD 5.0.0 would be adequate [or whatever name would be good for Co8]. Then again, maybe all of this is a bad idea.
PA Nights Been running in Spike's old stomping grounds the last night or two and will be for the next several nights, so I'll only be checking in irregularly. But . . . I say 5.0.0 is cool, but maybe we should release more little 5.0.1 (etc.) bits if we're going to jump straight to the next major release number. <runs back into the shadows>
Beware what hunts you in the night...:ninja: If you are where I think you are, Gaear, set your FM dial to 102.5 for the best radio in 50 states. The shadows are your friend...stay safe!
Great, we're trying to release a mod and Gaear is in a singles bar. "There's too much light here, the women can see me... ahhh, a dark corner, perfect..."
