Is this STILL a bug?

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  1. Shadowblade2

    Shadowblade2 Established Member

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    I've just returned to this forum after 2 1/2 years as I've just started playing again and I've got version 5 of the mod (previous one I had was ver 3.0, I think).

    I've tried searching the archives but can't find a definitive answer - some say he's fixed, others talk about making him a Ranger.

    In a thread called "Is this a bug?", in January 2006, I asked about Elmo as he didn't have his Feats for Wep Focus and Wep Spec (Battle Ax) and Kalshane said he was putting this in the next version. But in ver 5.0 of the Co8 mod, he still lacks them. So what's going on? I gave him a Ftr level at level 5, so if he was a Ranger he should have got a Feat, but he didn't, so he must STILL be a Fighter with only 4 feats instead of 6?!?


    Also, Furnok's skill points are wrong - he got 11 points at level 5, which is correct for his deduced INT, but has developed only 10 skills - I figure he needs Sleight of Hand to assist his Bluff and card sharking, so I put 6 ranks in that and spread others about, but at 5th level he should have 8 ranks in all 11 skills.



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  2. Shadowblade2

    Shadowblade2 Established Member

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    I'm surprised no one's answered this. Does no one know why Elmo only has 4 feats at 4th level rather than 6? The obvious ones which are missing seem to be Wep Focus and Wep Spec. I thought the mod had fixed that.

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  3. Tyrannar

    Tyrannar Wanderer in the dark

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    from what I have read he was supposed to be a ranger, and that would be a 6th lvl ranger
     
  4. GuardianAngel82

    GuardianAngel82 Senior Member

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    In ToEE, at start, he seems to be a 4th level Fighter. Look at his feats. Too many 1/2's in his skills. Surely somebody already KNOWS, by now, exactly what he is.
     
  5. Shadowblade2

    Shadowblade2 Established Member

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    I haven't a clue! Is it a secret? In the original First Edition paper module he was a Ranger, but he seems to be a Fighter with too few Feats in the electronic, 3.5E version.

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  6. Tyrannar

    Tyrannar Wanderer in the dark

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    Shadowblade2 Established Member

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    What the...!!

    But he has only FOUR in my version - that's why I posted in the first place - what's going on? I have the Co8 mod version 5 installed, with Jade Empress, the Whorehouse and some new spells. Why have I got the unmodded, unpatched, vanilla version NPCs?


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  8. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    I haven't found any revision statements relative to this in the release notes, but it may be that it wasn't implemented until after 5.0.0, which would mean you'd need to install the CMF (cumulative mods and fixes) patch.

    See this thread in the downloads forum: http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5980
     
  9. Tyrannar

    Tyrannar Wanderer in the dark

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    I dont know if it helps but I told him to lay off the sauce (sober up Elmo!)
     
  10. Shadowblade2

    Shadowblade2 Established Member

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    Me too. Does a sober Elmo have fewer feats?

    Trouble is, I think he's level 6, so I'll have given him Focus and Spec already
     
  11. Tyrannar

    Tyrannar Wanderer in the dark

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    i dont think it affects anything other than his walk. my sober ELMO FTR4 had 6 feats
     
  12. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Could someone simply pop the latest version of protos.tab open and settle this? Checking both regular and sober Elmo? :shrug:
     
  13. Greylan

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    Just opened it up my unmodified protos file with Protos Editor, and both entries for elmo show him as a Fighter 4 with 6 feats. :)
     
  14. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Thankyou very much.
     
  15. GuardianAngel82

    GuardianAngel82 Senior Member

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    So, I hate to ask, why isn't Elmo a Ranger? I know vanilla gives him ranger ranks when he goes up, but that just makes him 4Ftr/#Ran.
     
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