A trick to get both swords (Fragarach and Scather) within the game. Rescure Thrommel. Let him die in battle. Take Fragrarach. Raise him from the dead (you can do this even at low levels with a raise dead scroll available early in the game). Free him. Later, the random ancounter will appear and give you Scather. So, you have both. Killing Iuz is pretty doable with both swords. I was still trounced by Cuthbert.
there are no evil swords in the game and the only unholy weapon in the whole game si hedracks hammer. also scather and fragarach use thier special abilities against evil but dont do much againat anything else which is probally why you got Iuz and not Cuthbert.
By the way... Iuz is a pussy cat compared to Cuthbert. I'd say cuthbert is nearly impossible to kill in this game with a full party of level 10 characters. He has like 72 AC, a ton of attacks per round (and he hits hard and never seems to miss), a ton of hitpoints. Iuz on the other hand has AC in the low 30s IIRC, and is easily damaged by holy and cold weapons. I found this out on accident once from what seems to be a bug. After Cuthbert ported in did his dialogue, neither Iuz or Cuthbert left. I was able to finish fighting Iuz and kill him while Cuthbert just stood there doing nothing. Iuz has absolutely nothing of interest to loot btw. Just for fun I decided to take some swings at Cuthbert and was utterly decimated by him. I didn't take him more than a round to kill any of my party, even buffed up tanks with stoneskin were unable to stand against him.
when reading about the issue in game, it came up that fragarach was created by some gods to but an ultimate lawful good weapon (lawful good right?). Afterwhich, immitations were made in the form of similar, but not as powerful weapons for CG, LE, and CE. They provided NAMES for ALL of these weapons. I am wondering if they just never got to implementing a way to find those, the game is REALLY incomplete when played with an evil party...
well they messed up when they made fragarach cause they made it CG probally cause that was how it was in the original mod. it will become LG in the next mod
Does that mean the LE starting thing will be slightly different? If fragarach was LG instead of CG it would almost make more sence to swap the LE and CE starts and change the god from hextor to erythnul.
umm no as far as i know we wont be changing that. it would make sense i grant you but i dont know if that can be changed.
because the high priest of hextor wants you to find Fragarach a powerful CG sword, the total oposite alignment. So having Hextor apposed to a LG sword is ok but they are both lawful, therefore it would be better if the person that wanted the LG sword destroyed was CE (it might mean changing Turuko's alignment to from LE to CE)
I don't see a problem with the LE intro quest still being the same. Aren't Hextor and Heironeous direct foes? Both deities are lawful. Fragrach could be an artifact of Heironeous (which would certainly make sense if it's a LG weapon.) Plus, the mission setup is way too organized for CE. Also, Turoko can't be CE, he's a monk. He has to be lawful.
True, true I forgot about that stuff, monks being lawful, and Hextor and Heironeous direct foes. Silly me. In that case the only change would be the Hextor priest dialogue
