Fallen Paladins

my Paladins has fallen after completing the first earth temple quest. What should i do? how can i remove this condition? cheers

 

:s No, seriously: did you help an evil temple and you didn't expect your paladid to become fallen?

 

Hehe

Go to the canon of the church ( 2nd floor of the church in town). Tell him youre "sorry", hehe and you are a paladin again.

 

He did not help them do evil, he helped them fight each other. In other words, he was playing them against each other... which is against the paladin code i presume... paladins are expected to only fight "fairly"

 

yet my team which included a paladin went around killing all temple members without so much as an "how do?" and the paladin didnt fall

 

which is why i've always thought the D&D implementation of the Paladin idea is INCREDIBLY hypocritical!

 

Lol

Yeah Ki Rin, also if your team takes part in a drinking contest your paladin falls, but if you kill a few people in town, he does not. (Yeah yeah, I know, but I couldnt help it. They were really ticking me off.)

 

oh i know.. about the townsfolk thing.. and the drinking too. not that i tried it.. the drinking that is, must keep a lucid mind after all.

 

Let me see if I have this right.

Somebody has a big poisonous snake in their kitchen that has already killed their best chef. Your Paladin goes help them out and protect other chefs by killing said snake. If this person with the snake in there kitchen is good your Paladin is a hero, but if they are evil, your Paladin falls. Just for killing a snake that, by the way, attacks reguardless of it's target's alignment.

 

A Paladin...

...is supposed to seek out and destroy evil wherever it can be found. He/She is supposed to fight with honor, and they gain glory for their patron deity as well as themselves by being forthright, bold, and unswerving in the application of their sworn duties. Killing a neutral animal on behalf of some evil guys isn't good; killing it on behalf of good folks is. Killing each and every last one of the evil guys without regard for personal safety is what they are supposed to be doing; and doing whenever possible. Engaging in rowdiness at the local pub isn't lawful, and can also cause a loss of status...as they must remain steadfast in their lawful and good purposes. As for civilians...good are not to be harmed; neutral are to be converted or shunned; evil must convert or die. After being given a fair and fighting chance, of course. In the realm of ethos, lawfulness is best, neutral tolerated, chaotic avoided.

And no apologies for any of the above. Ever.

 

Rowdiness is NOT necessarily unlawful. In certain places it is quite lawful and socially acceptable.

And LocutusX summed it up the best, its hypocracy. Kind of fits in a universe where many gods are elevated mortals. A paladin is as it is because the gods who conceived the idea were not perfect. You can see the hypocracy of the gods

 

i killed a drunk guy in the pub not to mention half the adventurers there just to see how far i could go. and the paladin did not fall... i started most honourably with a screaming fireball