Dual-wield light crossbows

This is a thing, right? You can dual-wield light crossbows if you have rapid reload? I'm guessing it's not a thing approached by ToEE, or maybe there's a rules technicality that prevents it?

 

I'm having a hard time imaging reloading two crossbows at once, light or otherwise (and reloading one after the other isn't quite the same thing...).

 

This is an 18th-level bard with a 22 Dex. I'd imagine it'd be pretty entertaining to see.

 

He'd toss one into the air, quick load the other, and launch it into the air just in time to catch the first.....

 

With her perform check, enemies would toss silver into her mandolin case.

 

I was able to equip a second Repeating Crossbow and also get an extra attack with it by removing the flag OIF_WEAR_2HAND_REQUIRED in the proto. No other changes were required.

Normal two-weapon fighting penalties apply such as the -6/-10 penalty, and the off-hand weapon not being light. Two-Weapon feat reduced the penalty as normal. So basically it thinks you are wielding melee weapons in terms of to-hit bonuses.

This does not work with a regular Light Crossbow, even with Rapid Reload it limits you to one attack.

From PHB: "You can fire a repeating crossbow with one hand or fire a repeating crossbow in each hand in the same manner as you would a
normal crossbow of the same size."

 

I could swear I've seen builds that take advantage of light crossbows and rapid reload. Oh well.

With RR and repeating crossbows, I'm guessing it'd be a full round to reload both at once? And since my bard would have three attacks, plus rapid shot and haste, would be machine-gunning 10 bolts a round and reloading every other?

 

Rapid Reload work just fine with a Light Crossbow, just not if you are wielding two of them with the change I described.

In TOEE, Repeating Crossbows never need reloading. There are no bolt cases. It just ignores the reload action at all times for that weapon.

You would get 6 shots every turn, and never need to reload, even without Rapid Reload:

3 for the Bards normal attacks
1 for rapid shot
1 for haste
1 for the off-hand weapon​

Keep in mind that unless you also have the Two-Weapon Fighting Feat, you're going to take the -6/-10 penalty on all shots. And even if you DO have it, each shot will be at -4 since the off-hand weapon is not light. So I'm not sure it if is worth it all for just one extra shot. Looks cool in the game though.

 

I had planned to spec GTWF to begin with. Does speed enchant on each weapon give them their own?

 

You'd think with all the drow you kill helping out the gnomes that one of them would drop their Drow Hand Crossbow.

 

This guy doesn't see the problem...



I guess the part people forget its that a repeating crossbow is not like an automatic weapon, but you need to hit the reload lever after each shot with the other hand. Even though this is a free action, the second hand must still be available for activating this lever.

 

I've tried using double repeating crossbows on rogue/assassin, with Improved TWF and rapid shot, but still only gained one attack from secondary weapon. I doubt speed enchantment on both crossbows will help (it doesn't stack, right?). Also, on secondary crossbow it shows bonus to attack from strength, not dexterity. Looks like it's better to use only one ranged weapon (probably composite bow) after all - a pity, because dual wielding crossbows looks so badass!

 

My experience has been that a SLING - yes, a humble, lowly(?) sling - is the best range weapon because its ammo does BLUNT damage and it adds your STR MODIFIER to DAMAGE! Have a +1 STR mod? That applies. Have a +10 STR mod? That also applies! No need for different weapons!

Alleluia!