Add over-5-PC crack to new release . . . yes or no?

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  1. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    What does everyone think of adding the over-5-PC crack to the new Co8 4.0.0 release when it comes out? Personally, I find it kind of aggravating to have to hack the .dll whenever I want to add it. Plus, I don't think it's harmful to anyone who wants to play the old way -- just don't use more than 5 PCs, right?

    Opinions welcome . . .
     
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  2. Kalshane

    Kalshane Local Rules Geek

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    I'm completely for it. As you said, you don't have to use it if you don't want to and hacking the dll every time there's a patch is a PITA.
     
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  3. Sol Invictus

    Sol Invictus Beholder Watcher Veteran

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    Yeah, I think it should be added. Put it in a directory called "5PC" or something. I like playing with only 5 party members.
     
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  4. Kordius

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    Yes it could be interesting.
    After all the main aspect of TOEE is sub-tactical and more charaters more conbinations.
     
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  5. Martinius

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    Agreed. It adds to the experience. I for one play with only 4 PCs, but I like the freedom to have the option to play with up to 8!
     
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  6. Death Adder

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    Yes, I would also like to see this in.
     
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  7. lord_graywolfe

    lord_graywolfe Wolfman

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    yeah im all for it....i like using my own characters instead of the NPC's so please put it in.
     
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  8. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    I normally do too, but it sounds like the NPCs might be worthwhile again, not to mention rather interesting, after Livonya's through with them.

    Word to the wise. ;)
     
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  9. dulcaoin

    dulcaoin Established Member Veteran

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    Doesn't that patch cause lockup if played in a certain way that "fills" the party? That would do bad things for public perception if so. Can a command-line option be added to enable the patch, and it normally defaults to off? Then everyone can be happy...

    -- dulcaoin
     
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  10. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    Having 8 set as your max PC value will cause the game to crash if you try to recruit a 9th member (PC or NPC) while 8 are already in your party. There may be a couple instances where an NPC is forced upon you at some point -- I'm thinking of Fruella in particular -- but I believe that can be avoided if you see it coming.

    I suppose the command line option would be okay. Another idea would be to enable 7 as the max number of party members. I don't believe there's ever a time when 2 NPCs get forced on the party . . . or am I wrong?

    I recall there was a problem with 8 PCs and Livonya's beta version of the kids/traps/et al mod . . . was that ever addressed?
     
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  11. wizgeorge

    wizgeorge Prophet of Wizardy

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    Pc?npc?

    I would prefer to have more PC's because the NPC'a are such a hassle. I just did a daring rescue of the Prince and I went back to Hommlet to drop off Elmo, and went back and got him, and Fragarach. You have to have an open NPC slot for him to join. I normally play with 8, 5 PC, and 3 NPC and juggle them around if need be. Being able to have more than 5 PC is a good thing.
     
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  12. Morpheus

    Morpheus Mindflayer Veteran

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    I could add the 8 PC max crack in as an option. Of course that would considerably increase the mod's download size, because it basically means I have to include a temple.dll with the crack, and one withouth it. Maybe it would be better to just provide a temple.dll with the crack as a separate download?
     
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  13. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    Ted, Ed and Ed come as a pack of three, and while your not "forced" to take them, if you have 6+ pc's and are unaware of the problems caused by hacking the dll taking them into the group will cause problems, I'm all for adding the hack, don't get me wrong but I think it should be optional, and have a clearly visable warning about the problems that may arise from using it.
     
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  14. lord_graywolfe

    lord_graywolfe Wolfman

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    yeah and the two half orcs you find as prisoners are a package deal and you mother screng wont join unless otis is with you. but i would still like to see it. i use 7 pcs and 1 npc just because sometimes you need one for a quest.
     
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  15. Firestrand

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    Would it be possible to detach a PC and have the character sit somewhere as a NPC until you ask her to join again? That way you could shuffle your party as necessary to fullfill quests. I am guessing, but it may be too much of a pain to do.

    And a quick check to make sure your party size is < 8 before allowing the addition of another party member.

    -Firestrand
     
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