Nulb npcs

I have a vague idea it is possible under some strict requirements to hire the herb seller and her daughter in Nulb.
Is this true or did I just dream it.
If it's true what are the conditions to make them join?

 

Unless they changed it for the mod, Mother Screng and Hruda cannot travel with the party.

There's already one old shrew that you can get into the party, that being Fruella.

 

Hi Hugh
I have never done it, but I understand that it can be done. My understanding is that to hire the "Herbalist" (actually the Canoness Y'Dey) and her "daughter" (actually an Elf rogue/fighter), you have to meet some strict requirements.
1.) You have to Hire Otis and visit the temple.
2.) You must make another visit to the temple without Otis, and discover the different factions within the temple (I think rescuing Wonnilon will be sufficient)
3.) You must hire Otis and make a third visit to the temple.
4.) If your party is lower than 5th Level and you try to recruit Otis a third time, he will decline but suggest you talk to the herbalist.
The Royal Canadian

 

Sweet do you have to follow any particular alignment?

 

I'm going for it. Gonna try and see if I can get them to join up. Made a lawful good party who worships Pelor and St. Cuthbert. All before 5th level.

 

Likewise but starting at level 1

 

Repost from a while ago about how to get Y'dey, Murfles, and Otis in your party under current conditions.
I have to say that the Trio of Otis, Mother Screng, and Hruda are awesome. The problem is being of a low enough level to get them and once you get them you can never, ever, go back to Nulb.

First you need to have 4 PC's or less. If 4:
One Fighter/ Barbarian up to you. First Elmo and then Otis will fill out your fighter requirements for the party. If you must have Fruella in your party, you must skip the PC fighter and go with 3 PC's. Same if you want an Elmo and Otis family reunion. They do make a decent one-two punch.

A Cleric is necesary, but Mother Screng/Cannoness Y'dey is an 8th level Cleric of St. Cuthbert, so maybe have your PC cleric be of a Demi-human faith, say Moradin, and/or multi-class to something else after you get her to join.

Rogue. You'll need at least 3-5 levels depending on INT and DEX Ability scores (and the nimble fingers feat) to handle the traps. After that it's all for the sneak attacks. Hruda is a 2/2 elven Fighter/Rogue, specializing in archery. The hardest part about her is remembering which class you last leveled her up in to to avoid experience penalties.

Wizard. Doesn't matter about who/what etc. Or you can go with 3 PC's and take Spugnoir.

The hard part is staying under the magic party level number of 5 after taking Otis to the temple one time. With all of the additional experience floating around it can be tricky. When I finally did this I had to avoid either Emeridy Meadows quests, and most of the other town quests except for the ones I needed to get Meleny and that longsword. I did kill the assassin and the traders in Hommlet but I recommend not doing those till later, as I was only 1000 exp from level 6 with my PC's when I got Otis and Mother Screng. No Nulb quests either (Immryds Run or killing the crew at the Waterside Hostel.)

The other thing is you MUST complete your party to eight in Hommlet to soak up experience your PC's might get and keep your party level down. This allows you to have fairly decent NPC's waiting in Hommlet should Otis, Hruda, or Y'dey get killed or after the escorts are done.

In the Temple head straight for the Earth Temple Cleric so you can learn about the factions or Wonnilon. After that leave and head back to NULB. Otis will leave. Go to Hommlet and drop of all NPC's until you have your core four. Go back to Nulb and get Otis, then go to Mother Screng's for Y'dey and Hruda. The eighth spot is for the Verbobonc escorts, Paida, and Thrommel. Once you are done with those quests you can go back to Hommlet and pick up one more NPC, or one of the other ones in the temple (Wonnilon, Darley, etc.)

Remember there is no going back to Nulb after Otis is in your party the second time, as Y'dey and Hruda leave with him.

 

Blimey that's complicated I wonder if anyone achieved this without knowing the conditions.

 

How on earth did you find out who they were? I didn't come across a single hint as to their actual identities

 

Hi Anakha
The reason I knew about Y'Dey, Murfles, and Otis was because I DMed the original Paper and Pencil version.
The Royal Canadian

 

Ah okay, My mum did too. Think if I got her to tell me what she knows that it may give me some interesting info ?

 

I hired 1 time, is a lvl 9 decent cleric

 

I am confused. Why is she the Canoness? Does she admit it at some point? And in one of the intro's, the Canoness dies, is she no longer recruitable/in the game then? What happens if you take her to Terjon, does he recognize her?


I would have never suspected all of this. I wonder if there are other side quests/npcs that we have not found.

 

Hi Ranth
In the PnP game, the Canoness Y'Dey is in Nulb to gather intelligence about the resurgence of the Temple. Like I said, I haven't done this, but as I understand it she does "come clean". You are referring to the Neutral Good opening, where the PCs avenge her "murder". According to a walkthrough I read, after a NG party recruits her, Y'Dey will tell them that the person killed was her sister who was acting as Y'Dey to draw out the badguys. I honestly don't know what happens if you take her to see Terjon.
The Royal Canadian

 

I have done it just now. I started a lawful good party from 1st level and just got Otis, Mother Screng and Murfles to join me. Great party. I didn't think it could be done but it's really very easy. All 4 of my main characters are at the beginning of 5th level, not even 1000 XP into 5th. There's only 1 thing that is bad this playthrough.

After I got all 3 of them with me, we went to deal with the ambushers at my 800 gp outhouse I bought in Nulb. I killed them all with extreme ease but there's a problem with the hired thug that is next to the left wall. He becomes invincible, but flatfooted and cannot interact with him. I had all 8 party members wailing on him, sneak attacking him, critting him, tripping him, peeing on his legs, and he doesn't react. He just sits there all invincible, so you cannot kill him and the combat can never end. It's very sad. I'm going to try it again tomorrow and see if it was just a temporary thing. I'd hate to lose out on all that good loot.

If worse comes to worse, I guess I'll have to bypass the ambush scene and just go murder the temple. I hate the thought of that but it is what it is.