Burne & Orb of Golden Death

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  1. sylvrshadow

    sylvrshadow Member

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    First I want to thank everyone at CO8 for all their hard work!! You have made it actually possible to finally finish this game. :) I have been playing under the 5.5.0 mod and I am currently having problems with destroying the orb.

    I ask Burne about it and he tell me about it being evil and not to use it. Then he tells me he has to think. The conversation from him that tells me to see his assistant never comes up. I have waited 45 days and still nothing.

    In case its important I already have all of the components for the destruction of the skull in my inventory. Im not sure if this is what is causing the problem.

    I have searched the forums and I can only find This Thread but it does not mention the problem I am having.

    Thank you in advance! :)
     
  2. GuardianAngel82

    GuardianAngel82 Senior Member

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    Have you talked to his assistant, the lovely Pishella?
     
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    Yes I have spoken to Pishella, however nothing ever appears in her conversation options about the orb. Incidentally, the orb does not appear in Burnes dialog options either. I have collected all of the gems, so the orb is complete. I stopped by Burne before I put the orb in the throne.
     
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    only thing I can think of, (though it shouldnt matter?), is speak to him with the PC that has the orb in his/her equipment.
     
  5. sylvrshadow

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    I did, and still the same thing. :confused: Ive even tried going to the temple level where Zuggtmoy is and then coming back, but still the same thing. Now I really frustrated because Ive tried to beat Zuggtmoy without destroying the orb and the game keeps locking up during different parts of the fight.

    (sigh) I guess I didnt pray hard enough to the TOEE gods. :notworthy
     
  6. sylvrshadow

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    Just a quick bump to see if anyone has a suggestion or any idea. Ive tried a previous save (I have several!) and still the same thing. Im really bumed out because I am at the end of the game finaly and several years later! Ima wondering if I need to place this in the bugs section of the forum. :)
     
  7. Hugh Manetee

    Hugh Manetee Established Member

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    I've had this problem once and finished the game without destroying the skull.
    I thought it might be an alignment thing as my chaotic neutral party refused to help him with Jayfee for some reaszon.
     
  8. erkper

    erkper Bugbear Monk Supporter

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    In the other thread you linked, Gaear says something about the story state must be 6 (party knows about Zuggy) before you can destroy the Orb. I'm not sure how you get the story state to 6, but I'm guessing that's what you need to happen.



    Try casting Summon Moderator and maybe Gaear will wander by and tell you how to trigger the story state.
     
  9. sylvrshadow

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    ---> Hugh Manetee: My party is chaotic good, so I think that is along the lines of wanting the orb destroyed. Im not sure. Id not think it should matter really. However I did try to destroy her with the orb (gotta love that Balor! ) but the game keeps locking up at different points. :(

    ---> erkper: I saw that post too, but I figured I already knew about zuggy since she is the last battle. But it could be that I am not at story state 6. LOL, at the summon mod suggestion! Ill have to see if Burne has that scroll so I can copy it! :nerd:
     
  10. sylvrshadow

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    Well guys, I guess there is no solution to my problem. I am trying to finish the game without destroying the orb now, but it keeps crashing / locking up on me. (Always happens at different points of the last battle. ) I figure if I keep trying it will eventually let me win! :)

    I was wondering though if I should post my problem in the "bugs" section of the forum. Not sure if it is worth doing if there arent any other people with the same problem.
     
  11. maalri

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    It's more fun killing her at full HP anyway ;)
     
  12. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    Sorry sylvrshadow, I must have missed this somehow.

    In order for Burne to "finish his research" about the skull, you do indeed have to have reached the point in the game where you've been informed about Zuggtmoy (i.e. story state 6). There are two ways to become informed about Zuggtmoy: talk to Hedrack about it, or talk to the merchant prisoner (I believe his name is Whitman or something) on temple level 3. I realize that it's strange that you would be considered to not know about Zuggtmoy when you're fighting her, but that's vanilla (the how-do-you-learn part). We may yet change the conditions again in the future.

    In order to manually set story state 6, open the console (press SHIFT ~) and type:

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    game.story_state = 6
    then press enter.

    I don't know why the Zugg battle would be locking up for you, but I don't know that it would have anything to do with the orb. There's probably not much point in posting it in the bug thread.
     
  13. sylvrshadow

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    Thank you sooo much!! I will try to find Whitman on level 3 before I do the console command. I dont think the locking up has anything to do with the orb either. I think its a combination of scather and some other points in the game where it has to assess damage taken because of special enchantments. I know scather has a problem with damage from fire, which I found out on the fire node!

    It happens when Zuggy spawns the little fungus that casts some sort of purple cloud. And it happens when my mage gets hit while casting a spell sometimes. It says the concentration is successful, the spell is cast, and the creatures take damage. But then it never moves to the next person/creature in combat. I can move the mouse around, the combat music is still playing and the characters are not static. However I have to exit to windows and pull up the task manager to close the program.

    I know it could be a combination of things as to why it keeps locking up. I suspect it has something to do with the mage having stoneskin, barkskin and mage armor enchantments on all at the same time. (I also have spell resistance on.) Thats just my best guess though! But I know that it will eventually not hang up on me! ;) I went through something similar while fighting the Balor on the fire node.
     
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