Circle of Eight Modpack 5.5.0 General Commentary and Discussion Thread

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  1. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Finally got a chance to head over to Welkwood Bog - love it! Can't beleive how big it is!
     
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  2. NewbieUser

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    Re: Circle of Eight Modpack 5.5.x + CMF Bug Reports and Discussion Thread

    is there any hotfix for Jayfie? i cant complete that quest or get anything else from the traders until i have that leverage?? not to mention somehow even when i didnt divulge the name of the thief to furnok i got a tag as a beggar maker. and now all the town gives me attitude. heh funny stuff.

    i also dont find any talking rat in the inn?? and am i right that hte DH quests is not in this version? i cant get that to kick off either. or Welkwood bog either. i got a mention of it but the guard wont tell me anymore. maybe i need to find otis first? not sure if the second paragraph belongs here but the jayfie fix would be helpful.

    Thanks,
    John
     
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  3. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Re: Circle of Eight Modpack 5.5.x + CMF Bug Reports and Discussion Thread

    There are 3 seperate ways to become a 'beggar maker', so maybe you did one of the others. I have all 3 of them currently grubbing outside the Inn, and the townsfolk absolutely hate me.

    DH is not currently in the game, no.
     
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  4. solchaga

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    How do I disable the starting shop and all the money (100 platinum? ????)? It feels like cheating to me.
    thanks
     
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  5. theEarlofSandwich

    theEarlofSandwich Fridge Raider

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    Re: Circle of Eight Modpack 5.5.x + CMF Bug Reports and Discussion Thread

    Windows XP SP2
    American Version
    Clean Install
    Patch 2
    5.5.0_beta
    TOEE Front-End X

    Just a small note on the Shop-map crash, which I have experienced several times. The only save-games that have crashed have been ones where I had used the console commands feature prior to the save. Probably just a coincidence, but.......
     
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  6. GuardianAngel82

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    I hope you didn't INSTALL TFE-X after 5.5.0.

    I've found that using the the console can make the game ctd more often. But, it's more likely you stacked units of missile ammo. That's the usual culprit in such cases. ;)
     
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  7. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    ...but almost certainly not.

    If you try to console something and get it wrong (this is for everyone now, not just nobility) the game will crash while saving. Example:

    "I want to start with Fragarach! Lets see, its give 4710

    (doesn't work)

    O damn, must be give 4701

    (creates white arrow screw-up icon)

    Wait wait wait, its give 4017! Yes, thats got it! Better save before I forget".

    You now have 2 non-items trying to occupy your inventory, and when you hit save, the game will be unable to write those items to the save and will crash, possibly after creating a broken half-save that you can then try to load later (which will also crash). Personally I suspect this is as much an origin of 'bugged starting map saves' as the stacked items issue.

    So don't use the console. Ever. :yes:
     
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  8. GuardianAngel82

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    I assumed he knew what to do while consoling. You know, the console crash and the stackable item crash sound similar...
     
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  9. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    ...but since he had the good sense to tell us he had been playing with the console, thats more likely the culprit.

    While the 'stacked items' thing IS being investigated, it would be interesting to know how many other people who experienced it had also been playing with the console...
     
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  10. Enilno

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    Hey ST -- I encountered the stackable items bug my first few attempts to play 5.5.0. It only happened when trying to get started after leaving the shop map (CTD every time). Worked fine after I made sure no ammo was stacked (just one unit of ammo per character). No console commands were employed in any case.

    By the way, I've noticed no real problems stacking plenty of ammo since the game got started.

    Not sure if the stacked items are related to a higher CTD rate than I'm used to, but this a new install on a Vista system I've never installed ToEE on before, so there are other variables. I'm also playing off the CD instead of the no-CD crack. I got tired of the anti-virus constantly tagging the no-CD file on my old XP system, that I decided I'd play off the CD on this one. Maybe playing off the CD is causing more CTDs (I seem to recall the no-CD crack was considered more stable when I went to it years ago). Anyway, the CTDs seem to occur primarily in three different scenarios: 1) Entering/exiting a portal (door, ladder, etc.); 2) Using the extraplanar chest (especially in crowded areas); 3) Attempting to save while my characters are still in motion. I now try to save whenever I am about to go through a portal (especially if I haven't saved recently) and before using the EP chest. (And make sure my characters have finished moving before saving.)
     
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  11. Templar

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    I'm having a few odd little bugs. I'm at the temple area now, I tried to add Otis, he agreed but I can't seem to actually have him join though he says he's ready to go. I got rid of elmo as a test then tried to add (so there was extra room) but still no.

    With Burne, the optinion to ask him to join is not there. I only have 2 optinons now :(
    Ask him to try and say goodbye, same with Rufus.
     
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  12. tejón

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    I didn't even realize this game HAD a console, so tally one for "no." :)
     
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  13. erkper

    erkper Bugbear Monk Supporter

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    I have encountered the stacked items bug both in KOTB and the new shopmap, but I've never opened the console in my entire gaming life.
     
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  14. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Thanks for the feedback guys, as I said we ARE taking the stacked items bug seriously and trying to do something about it.
     
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  15. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    Re: Circle of Eight Modpack 5.5.x + CMF Bug Reports and Discussion Thread

    Did you ever actually leave the Moathouse after killing Lareth? If so, how? You're not supposed to be able to get out of there without running into those guys (assuming they're not in your party).

    The Lareth/Cave Lair bug is known - #0026.
     
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