What did I do wrong? [SPOILER]

I went to rescue the Prince, when I got to him, he was a vampire and attacked me. So I killed him. I rescued the elf chick, in a NG party. WTH!?!?!?

And now that I killed him and have all his gear, what do I do with it? I didn't want to kill him but didn't have a choice...

Harper Ranger

 

Re: What did I do wrong?

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Hmmm I don't know what happened but I saw Thrommel as
a vampire, I even was preparing to battle and in the same moment
he changed into a human. Maybe you should try to dispell him because
its an illusion cast upon him?

 

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Yeah that is kind of strange I have never once had the prince attack me. I just walk up to him and he would start talking. Kella isnt too bad of a druid.

 

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The way I remember it, certain characters (whether by race or class, or of a certain proficiency with a skill check) will be able to see right through the illusion covering Prince Thrommel. If he tries to attack you, you either have to dispell the magic around him, or force-talk to him. (I do the latter, and it always works for me.) Well, if worse comes to worse, since you already killed him, you can run back and see if his body's still there to use Resurrect on him.

The reason he attacks you is because the party automatically enters Combat Mode, since they see Prince Thrommel as being a vampire, and therefor, an enemy. The reason he attacks is because, come on, if a group of people came by and attacked you with no explination, would you just stand there and be slaughtered, or fight back?

 

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That's odd. Combat mode always starts as soon as I find Thrommel, every single time I've played through that part of the game (at least a dozen or so). I haven't used any NPCs in my last few play-throughs... I just kinda assumed that it was structured the way I explained above. :shrug: I mean, it makes sense and all.

 

Sorry for not tagging the "Spoiler"

I don't have any NPC's in the party. Just the 6 in my original group. All level 10.

I think I figured out what I did. It was real late (as usual) and I think I just saw "VAMPIRE" and went into attack mode. I had my ranger/rogue with the invis ring checking out area's and saw the vamp and attacked it with an invis sneak attack and that started the battle. I think that's why the Prince never changed.

After I looted everything and saw the item tags, I pieced it all together.

Opps big time. Now I can't get that part back. I saved over it already not thinking.

Not sure if I'm going to start over again or just bust my butt to get the money to craft stuff.

Thanks for the advise guys.

HR

 

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Oh, Come on!

Maybe you shouldn't be the one re-evaluating what you're posting, Ted. I mean, he's even got you second guessing yourself. I don't think CtB would have rolled a "fix" like that into an update without everyone else here knowing about it, clever modders or no. Now, this will have to be checked, I suppose, to the detriment of other work that needs to be done. Just because this pretender offered a half-assed guess into what someone's problem was to up their own image in the forum.

 

Okay, there is nothing in the script and dialogue file for Prince Thrommel that would cause combat to be initiated, except in one case.

Here's the one case, the exception. When a party talking with Prince Thrommel demands he surrender fragarach and, again - a second time, a party demands he give up the sword, the game sets the party alignment to lawful evil and combat begins through dialogue.

The vampire illusion is a simple ruse, a game-play mechanics ploy. There is no no code to make a change or do anything. It's a simple way to get people playing the game to mistakenly attack Prince Thrommel with their party. Again, there is no script or code to force combat.

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fyi - For future reference, there would be something else going on that would cause Prince Thrommel to attack a party like casting an area effect spell in the room where he is sleeping, attacking Prince Thrommel, etc...Bottom line, the Prince does not just attack.

 

Don't start, Spike. I was making an assumption on why it happened, based on the fact that it did happen. That assumption was perfectly valid reasoning, and I'm tired of you getting your jollies by arguing with everything I say! I get that you're a good modder. Good for you. You've done far more for this community than I have. I'm not going to argue that fact. And I also get that you're a moderator. Once again, good for you. But frankly, I think the power started going to your head a long time ago.

I honestly don't know why my game automatically starts combat with Thrommel. Maybe my install was bad. It's been known to happen, and all kinds of things get screwed up with bad installs. Maybe I was just in bad with one of Thrommel's factions, so he attacked me because of it. I don't know. I'm just saying, it's happened to me, and I offered an explination that at least made some sense. You have another explination for what happened? Go for it. I'd love to hear it.