Windows Vista OS, Go or No Go

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  1. sirchet

    sirchet Force for Goodness Moderator Supporter

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    Hi all:
    Windows Vista is out here, in The States. Does anyone know if it will work with games that run on XP?
    What's the opinion of Vista from some of you guys that are far more computer savy than I.
     
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  2. ShadowDragoon

    ShadowDragoon Advocate of Vengence

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    From all I've heard about Vista, it's not that great. I've actually heard people say it's worse than when Windows ME came out... IMO, I'd stick with Windows XP, since it's a good system already. Plus, Vista just came out today in the states. It has yet to be tested out properly, and I'm sure there are a ton of bugs still in it. (There always is with Windows.) If you're going to get Vista, I'd at least wait a couple months until some critical bug fixes are out.

    As far as actual compatability, though, I'd imagine it will still support any game that can be played on Windows XP. It honestly wouldn't make any sense at all if it didn't. But, I don't know for sure, but somebody else will come along and give their opinion, I'm sure. :)
     
  3. Shiningted

    Shiningted I changed this damn title, finally! Administrator

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    Are you forgetting SP2 wasn't properly backwards compatable? Thats why we had to patch all our games.

    Definitely wait for a while, whatever happens.
     
  4. ShadowDragoon

    ShadowDragoon Advocate of Vengence

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    Actually, I have no idea what you're talking about, Ted. :p
     
  5. maggit

    maggit Zombie RipTorn Wonka

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    The first SP2 release did not assure compatibility
    of pre-SP2 software. As simple as that. :)
     
  6. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    Check this post for information -> Windows Vista minimum requirements <- click there

    from the Kaptain's Korner

    Windows Vista (capable) minimum requirements
    Processor: 800 MHz
    Memory: 512 MB
    GPU: SVGA (800x600 and DirectX 9 capable)
    GPU RAM: no minimum
    HDD: 15 GB (free space for the operating system)
    Optical Drive: CD-ROM

    Windows Vista (ready) minimum requirements
    Processor: 1000 MHz
    Memory: 1024 MB (no shared GPU memory else over 1024 MB)
    GPU: SVGA (DirectX 9-class GPU) supports*
    * WDDM + hardware Pixel Shader 2.0 + 32 bits/pixel + adequate GPU RAM
    GPU RAM: 128 MB minimum (no shared GPU memory else over 128 MB)
    HDD: over 15 GB (free space for the operating system)
    Optical Drive: CD-ROM or DVD-ROM

    adequate GPU RAM
    – 64 MB of RAM to support a single monitor up to 1,310,720 pixels
    – 128 MB of RAM to support a single monitor up to 2,304,000 pixels
    – 256 MB of RAM to support a single monitor beyond 2,304,000 pixels
     
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  7. sirchet

    sirchet Force for Goodness Moderator Supporter

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    Ahh...the opinions roll in :)
    Myself I ran ME for a long time without problems, until I had to upgrade to XP for certain games. XP pro with Service Pack 2 has served me well so far, but the guys over at Cheap Guys Computers, (they built my new gaming pc) told me that in two years there will be no support for any windows except Vista.

    Krunch: Thanks for the link, I far exceed the Vista ready stats. I'm gonna wait though, I still don't trust Micro Soft..................................shhhh Bill Gates is probably watching, hehe
     
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  8. OldSchoolGamer

    OldSchoolGamer Lurking Sith

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    I refuse to touch Vista for at least a year. The sheer number of bugs, security issues, the fact that I do not make enough to create a machine powerful enough to run the software, and the fact that I am quite used to XP turns me off to Vista. Why should one have to get a brand new computer JUST BECAUSE Microsoft decided to MAKE the world upgrade...

    Besides, hasn't anyone at that company heard of Quality Control? Beta testing? Anyone? Anyone?
     
  9. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    Here's a reported list of games that are supposed to be compatible with Windows Vista.

    Aliens versus Predator 2
    Americas Army 2.7 (32-bit) - you have to manually update punkbuster then run as admin
    Anno 1701
    Age of Empires and the Rise of Rome expansion
    Age of Empires II and the Conquerors expansion
    Armed and Dangerous
    Arx Fatalis
    Baldur's Gate (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
    Baldur's Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast (32bit) (Polish version, English should work well too)
    Battle for Middle-Earth 1 & 2
    Battlefield 2 & Special Forces (Run BF2.exe As Administrator.)
    Battlefield 2142
    Blood II The Chosen (It rarely crashes, but this was happening under XP too.)
    Broken Sword: The Angel of Death
    Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth
    Call of Duty & United Offensive
    Call of Duty 2 (run cod2mp_s.exe in XP SP2 compability mode; SP fine.)
    Civilization III (run as administrator, XP SP2 compatibility mode)
    Cobra 11 - Nitro (StarForce protection vista-update required)
    Command & Conquer: Generals
    Commandos: Beyond The Call Of Duty
    Condemned - Criminal Origins
    Continuum
    Counter-Strike 1.6
    Counter-Strike Condition Zero
    Counter-Strike Source
    Cricket 07 (Australian version - works on both x86 & x64)
    Darwinia
    Deal or No Deal
    Delta Force Black Hawk Down & Team Sabre
    Deus Ex
    Diablo I
    Diablo II - NOTE: For best results, set Compatibility Mode for application to Windows XP SP2 in the shortcut's properties and run as Administrator. This should allow all features of game to work properly, including LAN and Battle.Net play.
    Doom 3 (Requires working OpenGL support)
    Doom 3: Resurrection of Evil (Requires working OpenGL support)
    Doomsday 3D Engine v1.9.0 Beta 4
    Duke Nukem 3D Atomic Edition with all Add-Ons (for Windows Edition; not original 16-bit MS-DOS) (This game works slowly with too low performance if you don't install the driver of your graphic card manually although Vista automatically recognizes and installs the drivers of your graphic card and DirectX.)
    Duke Nukem 3D High Resolution Pack (HRP) (also External Release (XTR)) v1.0
    Duke Nukem Manhattan Project
    Dungeon Keeper
    EA Link for EA Games
    Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
    Everquest
    Everquest II
    F1 2006 (Win 98/Me Compatibility Mode)
    Flight Simulator 2004
    Flight Simulator X
    FBI: Hostage Rescue
    F.E.A.R
    FIFA 07
    Football Manager 2007
    Freelancer
    Flatout 2 (European with Starforce update)
    Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter
    Gothic 3 (Windows Vista wont allow 2 files to install in system folder(64 bit))
    Grand Prix 4
    Grand Theft Auto II
    Grand Theft Auto III
    Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
    Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
    Guild Wars: Factions (German)
    Gun
    GunBound WC
    Half Life
    Half Life 2 & Half Life 2: Episode One
    Halo: Combat Evolved(need a patch windows tel you about it)
    Halo: Custom Edition(needs a update tho download (hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?pg=3&fid=1884)
    Hitman: Blood Money
    Hitman: Contracts
    Hugo: The Evil Mirror
    KISS: Psycho Circus The Nightmare Child
    Lara Croft: Tomb Raider Legend
    Lego Star Wars II (64-bit)
    Max Payne 1.01
    Max Payne 2
    Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault Installed MOHAA Ver1.1 on 32-bit Ultimate, plays fine with no problems at all, multiplayer untested as yet.
    Klotski (and Microsoft Entertainment Pack 1991)
    MU Online
    Need for Speed (32-bit)
    Need for Speed III: Hot pursuit
    Need for Speed Most Wanted
    Need for Speed Carbon
    Neverwinter Nights 2
    NHL 06
    NHL 07
    Outrun 2006
    Pariah (With 98/ME Compatibility mode)
    Pacific Warriors
    Phantasy Star Universe
    Prey (Requires working OpenGL support)
    Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
    Prince of Persia: The Two Thrones (Starts Windows MCE upon exit?)
    Pro Evolution Soccer 6
    Psychonauts
    Quake 2
    Quake 3
    Quake 4 (v1.3)
    Race - The WTCC Game
    Ragnarok Online
    Rainbow Six: Lockdown
    RollerCoaster Tycoon [With the Loopy Landscape Add-On] (Vista 32-bit)
    - Add the "Windows 95" compatibility mode for the file "rct.exe"
    - Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT and its subfolders.
    RollerCoaster Tycoon 2 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
    - Add the "Full control" right to "Everyone" for the folder of RCT2 and its subfolders.
    RollerCoaster Tycoon 3 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bit)
    Rome: Total War
    Second Sight
    SimCity 3000 Unlimited (32-bit)
    Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
    Splinter Cell: Double Agent
    Star Wars Galaxies
    Star Wars Galactic Battlegrounds and Clone Campaigns
    Starcraft
    Super Mario Forever (After starting the game, the mouse cursor of Vista still appears on the screen. Ignore it.)
    SWAT 4 & The Stetchkov Syndicate (32-bit)
    The Simpsons - Hit & Run (32-bit)
    The Sims 2 [Original and all Add-Ons] (Vista 32-bits)
    The Sims 2 [Nightlife, Pets] (Vista 64-bit)
    Titan Quest
    Train Simulator (Microsoft) (Vista 32-bit)
    Unreal Tournament 2004
    Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
    Warcraft 3 & also The Frozen Throne(With 98/ME Compatibility Mode)
    Warhammer Mark of Chaos
    World of Warcraft
    World Racing 2 (StarForce protection vista-update required)
    Worms 4: Mayhem
    Worms Armageddon with latest patch (32bit)
    Worms World Party
     
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  10. OldSchoolGamer

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    *blink*

    No BG II? Why the first, but not the second?
     
  11. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    *shrug* :shrugno:
     
  12. Agetian

    Agetian Attorney General Administrator

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    I've checked out various compatibility lists (and thanks for posting one here, krunch!), looked through some authoritative articles on Vista and I can say that I would like NOT to install it until at least SP1 or (better) SP2 shows up, and until they fix various compatibility problems. In addition, I'm quite pissed off to see that Vista appears to be pretty much a 3D version of Windows XP, so to speak. Well, of course I may sound ironic here and Vista is somewhat more than just a 3D version of WinXP, but anyway - it doesn't look like, given the amount of bugs and security holes there and the lack of important features, it's worth installing right away, especially considering that the majority of important software bundled with Windows Vista can also be installed into WinXP SP2.

    .NET Framework v3.0? I can always install it into my Windows XP SP2 and be happy.
    DirectX 10? Well, unless it's "Vista only" (which I doubt, but I haven't checked it out myself so I don't know), I can also install it into my WinXP SP2 and be happy.

    - Agetian
     
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  13. Ozzybrainz

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    Okay, I'll bite. ToEE not listed here or on Krunch's complete compatibility list in another post. Stupid question below:

    According to Bill Gates (heard this on The Daily Show FWIW), there were 5 million people who downloaded and tested the beta version of Vista worldwide. If so, has anyone reading this tried to run ToEE on it yet?
     
  14. ShadowDragoon

    ShadowDragoon Advocate of Vengence

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    I'll let you in on a little secret. Probably 95% of the 5 million people that tried Vista never even heard of Temple of Elemental Evil. He said himself it was 5 million worldwide, and so far ToEE is only in America and a handful of other countries. And from what I hear, it's still a niche game everywhere it's been released.

    If someone here would like to be the guinnea pig and test out Vista, which I would seriously like to see, it ain't gonna be me...

    That's bullshit. Even some of the newest games and computer software coming out to date are still compatible back to at least Windows 2000. I've still seen recent things that will run with Windows 98, and that's been out for...what... 9 years? There's no way in hell Vista will completely take over the Windows market in two years. If it ever does (which I honestly doubt it will), it will take at least four or five years, until XP starts to get to the brink of being obsolete.
     
  15. krunch

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    Get hot and beat'em up, Agetian!.. heh *smirk*
     
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