A question about Scather

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  1. Dragon_Awakened

    Dragon_Awakened Wandering Warrior

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    I have gotten to a point where I picked up the sword Scather and had the fighter I set aside as my archer take her last proficiency in bastard sword. At first I just thought Scather had the damage of a greatsword. The problem came up when I tried to equip any shield larger than a buckler. I've used a bastard sword during one of my experimental games and had been able to use a shield then. Just wondering whether this weapon is truly a bastard sword or a greatsword.
    Thank you for your time and an advanced apology if this subject has been brought up before. I did a search but the majority I have found on Scather are complaints about how unbalanced it was as a weapon.
     
  2. Blair

    Blair Unwanted Construct

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    Even the earlier Co8 mods made Scather into a bastard sword, just like Fragarach. (Originally it was a greatsword.) Tell us your installation configuration so we can try to figure out where the conflict is.

    --Blair
    "But I want to face the peril!"
     
  3. Dragon_Awakened

    Dragon_Awakened Wandering Warrior

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    Configuration

    I'm still stuck in the same situation I mentioned elsewhere. The modem on my gaming computer is dust so I could not download any patches or modifications. A friend came up with a new modem and I will hopefully be getting that installed this weekend. My only other option was or is to download everything onto my portable hard drive and install from there.
    My game is still in the experimental stages though. I've made plenty of progress but do not intend to beat ToEE with my currant game. I'll wait until I can modify my party (aka 7 member party leaving one space open for important NPC's.) I've got Taki, Burne, and Elmo as NPC's. Taki and Burne drop quicker than a prostitute offered triple her rates (or is this just in my game?)
    I'll have things fixed up soon enough though.

    Rather than bump this question again I'll just edit with a few other problems I am having.
    1) The Javelin of lightning doesn't seem to work at all when it comes to the "lightning bolt" My barbarian tried to use one and I went through every possible means to set off the lightning. I figured maybe that a critical hit with one would set off the lightning bolt. I used the javelin until I scored a crit and still no lightning bolt. What is the secret?

    2) Smigmal Redhand under the base of the brigand tower. I beat her in the initial fight then went through her "I'm just a helpless elf" speal. Then she pulls this disappearing trick and attacks again. Nothing I do brings her out of her invisibility. I have holy smited the room and did not harm her, I've used purge invisibility and true seeing and this did not bring her out. I never lost any characters to her but it was quite annoying to come up with ideas that were fruitless. She did not reappear in the battle with Hedrack and Senshock and seems to just at this point be a lost character. Is this a bug that needs to be fixed or is she meant to be this annoying?
     
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  4. Dragon_Awakened

    Dragon_Awakened Wandering Warrior

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    Sorry to bump the topic.

    I had added a couple new questions and hope somebody might answer them. I won't bump this topic again. The new questions are located in my second post here.
     
  5. Gaear

    Gaear Bastard Maestro Administrator

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    Dragon -

    Smigmal Redhand: this is indeed a bug that needs to be fixed, and has been fixed by Allyx, fortunately. You can get this fix (along with a few others) in the Co8 4.0.1 patch, which can be found here:

    http://files.co8.org/patch/Co8-4.0.1_patch.zip

    Use of the 4.0.1 patch assumes you're already using the 4.0.0 mod. For more info on the Smigmal topic, check this thread:

    http://www.co8.org/forum/showthread.php?p=24461#post24461

    I'm afraid I can't help you with the Javelin of Lightning problem.
     
  6. Lord_Spike

    Lord_Spike Senior Member Veteran

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    It's goofy. The weapon lets the wielder cast Lightning Bolt one time, as if it were a wand with one charge. Use the radial menu to cast it. What it ought to do is become the head of a lightning bolt when it's thrown; when it strikes, a 30' back blast of electricity nails those in the path of the bolt.
     
  7. Dragon_Awakened

    Dragon_Awakened Wandering Warrior

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    I'll see what happens soon enough.

    I have downloaded the official Atari patches 1 and 2, Humble NPC mod (For the single NPC slot I intend to leave open), Voice & Mod Pack, CO8 4.0(sp?) (the big one that this group designed.) I'm not entirely sure what is what but I'm most interested in the mod that allows the increase in party size (7 members is pretty much my wish list.) I think I also grabbed the one that lets the party start out in a shop to buy their equipment. Any suggestions on other mods? When it comes to computers I'm about as dense as a bag full of hammers so actually applying the patches and modifications will be hit and miss for a few tries. I deleted and then reloaded the ToEE game before doing anything just to prevent any problems. All my save games are gone so once everything is finally set up it's off to finally trying to beat ToEE for me.
     
  8. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    these 3 executable files are located in the parent game folder [the folder you installed the ToEE game in]
    1- use the HumbleNPCs executable (run it) -=- NPCs do not loot any more
    2- use the MaxHPs executable (run it) -=- you can guess this effect
    3- use the PCCountPatcher executable (run it) -=- change the number of PCs and NPCs...still have a maximum of 8 characters and need one free NPC slot to rescue Prince Thrommel

    The Voice and Portrait pack make using new portraits somewhat complicated or difficult if you are not savvy with using computers...based on what you said describing your ability with computers, you might want to avoid using new portraits, but the new voices will all be there for any new characters you make

    The Shop Map option when you install the Co8 4 MOD is what you want to checkmark for buying new gear at the start of a new game.
     
  9. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    Re: Javelin of lightning. Due to the funky way item's are made to cast spells, the lightning bolt will trigger if used by an arcane spellcaster (this is wrong according to the rules, but luckilly I know how to fix it).
     
  10. Dragon_Awakened

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    More Info

    The max hit points mod was in the 4.0 mod? Does this also give all monsters maximum hit points? I thought I read something like that here somewhere. Thank you to all for your help to this point.
     
  11. krunch

    krunch moving on in life

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    There are three checkbox options when you run the MaxHPs executable. Run it and read the options. The three single file executables (HumbleNPCs, MaxHPs, and PCCountPatcher) are placed in the parent ToEE game folder, by default, when you install the Co8 4.0.0 MOD.
     
  12. Dragon_Awakened

    Dragon_Awakened Wandering Warrior

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    If it were not for the fact that I might cause serious damage to myself I would be doing backflips right now with all the improvements I've seen. Now working with my new 7 member, all female, neutral good party I'm having much more fun.
    Paty consists of:
    Elf Fighter (longsword specialist)
    Human Barbarian (damage magnet!)
    Human Fighter (bastard sword specialist) used to protect the wizard and rogue.
    Human Fighter (Archer Specialist), spell casters beware mastrwrk mighty composite bow+4
    Human Cleric (uses warhammer (martial proficiency) (I hated the look of the hvy mace)
    Human Rogue (previously had her take up longbow, now working the hvy crossbow)
    Human Wizard (haven't had her specialize in a school yet; any suggestions?)
    Much more to say but no time to say it.
     
  13. Scorched_Earth

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    Conjuration.

    Interesting party. With so many fighters, might I also suggest specializing in reach weapons. Halberds and whatnot.
     
  14. Dragon_Awakened

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    I'm not sure but I think I shot myself in the foot! On the front end I had upped the max level to 20 but did not check the box next to it. Just noticed that this morning and set it. Will this require a restart of the currant party to make that change work or immediately implement that change?
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    On the changes through 4.0 I have seen I did not realize that humbleNPC was already included so I had downloaded that as well. I couldn't get the voice or portrait pack to work so I will have to find one of my more code literate friends to help on that one. Action is much more challenging. Game is vastly improved over what I was working with.
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    In Nulb are there any quests involved with the brothel? Given the fact that my party are all women there is no reason to go in there otherwise.
     
  15. Allyx

    Allyx Master Crafter Global Moderator Supporter

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    The level cap is set to 20 by default, so it shouldn't do any harm..
    Did you download the separate voice and portrait pack? You should remember if you did, it's 60 megs in all.
    there are new quests, and your female PC's should be able to partake in at least some of the fun inside ;) Unless of course you have a paladin in the group :(
     
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